It is winter in the Northern Hemisphere and snow blankets a lot of our normal riding haunts. But this doesn’t mean you have to stop riding. In this post, I will take a quick look at some “fat bikes” and how these rigs “measure up” to the idea of big wheeled mountain biking. If you like the look of them after reading this article, remember to look at fat MTB Reviews to see which one is ideal for you.
Greg Matyas of Speedway Cycles in Anchorage, Alaska, shows off one of his “Fat Back” fat bikes at Sea Otter.
So, Just What Is A “Fat Bike”: Essentially what we have here is a mountain bike based around some enormous, “fat” tires, thus the moniker “fat bike”. The whole point of these bikes is about flotation and traction on surfaces otherwise unrideable by ordinary 26″ or 29″ wheeled bikes. If you’re looking for more of an everyday fitness style bike, a bit closer to home, take a look at Hero Cycles with gear Under Rs.6000. Are they “big wheeled” mountain bikes? Aren’t these just glorified 26″ers? Well, not really. Here is why they matter to folks into 29″ers.
First, it is important to keep in mind that the 29″er got its name in the first place because of its overall outer diameter measurement, not from the 700c based rim size. The reasons for this go waaaay back, but for our purposes here, let’s just focus on outer diameter. Any rim combination/diameter paired with the right sized tire can reach a certain measurement. So, in the case of a fat bike, the combination of the rim diameter and fat tire reaches 29 inches in diameter.
Some folks would argue that due to the ISO bead diameter of the fat bike’s tires being the same as 26″ mountain bikes, the fat bikes are not 29″ers, but using that logic, road racing bikes would then be 29″ers too. So, as you can see, a fat bike has a good reason to be thought of as a 29″er in reality.
Another custom Fat Back bike in titanium.
Another way fat bikes are like 29″ers is that they have evolved to needing proprietary frames and forks, much like 29″ers. While some 26 inch bikes can be shoehorned with big, 3″ wide rubber, those same bikes can not handle today’s nearly 4″ wide tires on 100mm wide rims! Nope, only the proper frame and fork will do now. One final thing that bonds fat bikes to 29″ers is that “normal” 29″er wheels and tires can be swapped into a fat bike frame for summertime riding, if you want to. Many fat bike riders just ride their enormous tires all year long though.
The Surly Pugsley has been around for several years now. Here’s the updated 2011 model.
THe King Of All Terrain Bikes?: Back in the early days of modern mountain biking, the term “mountain bike” was actually a company name. Many early fat tired bikes were called “all terrain bikes”, or “ATB” bikes. (In fact, since most off road bikes are not actually ridden on mountains, “all terrain bikes” makes more sense, but…) If any bike can lay claim to being “all terrain”, the fat bike is that animal. These bikes, designed originally for tackling the Alaskan ultra-endurance races on snow, were found to excel on all sorts of terrain, and many places a regular mountain bike can not be ridden easily, a fat bike can ride comfortably through. All terrain indeed!
The author’s Salsa Mukluk. A new fat bike offering from Salsa Cycles.
Personally, a fat bike has always had an attraction for me. I knew that at some point I would get one, and I finally purchased my fat bike recently, just to satisfy my curiosity about the genre. I’ll be giving it a go here in all sorts of riding situations- not just snow and sand- to see if this is truly the “King Of All Terrain Bikes“.
Stay tuned for an introductory post on the Mukluk and more on fat bikes to come.
Note: The Salsa Mukluk is Guitar Ted’s personal bike, and was not submitted for review/test by Salsa Cycles. I will strive to give my honest thoughts and opinions throughout.
Nice, I am glad you are taking this on and look forward to your reports.
Hope you can include a 9zero7.
Love my FAT bike! It is the one bike that if i had to choose from my collection of 10 bikes would be the only one i would not part with. I’ve ridden it on the beaches, deep swamps, snow, single track, gravel, paved roads… they are absolutely the most fun bike there is to own (except on long climbs ;-).
I would love to see someone do a fat bike tandem….
Very appropriate for the season!
That ti Fatback is absolutely beautiful…
I’ve been wishing for a mukluk or pugsley… got a foot of snow a couple days ago and I haven’t been able to ride my normal commuting route.
Being in Virginia I don’t think a fat bike would be a terribly practical solution 98% of the year… but it would be awesome 2% of the time!
I’d love to ride one on some really rocky trails.
GTed – any plans on trying a “fat front” set up on a 29er? Different purpose than a true fat bike, sure, but I’d be curious about what you thought of it.
Spiff: I had been experimenting with a fat front a few years ago and while being really cushy and soft, it felt like I was ooozing my way through the trail. Steering is all off due to the extremely big contact patch and friction, when turning. Also the width can be treacherous in rocks as the wide tire at usually super low pressures can easily get caught between rocks. After some time I decided it wasnยดt my piece of cake.
Still enjoy it when the trails is covered deeep in snow, though.
I was a Mukkluk and an older Pug in the Colorado high country a few weekends ago. Haven’t seen any before then though. No fresh snow, but still looks fun.
@Spiff: That is a possibility for later in the spring.
karyg – Fatbike tandem just doesn’t sense from the floatation perspective. You’d be doubling rider weight without increasing float.
Not to say that it couldn’t be a fun beast for non-snow, non-sand riding.
true, I was thinking it would be great for traction/cushion for the stoker
I think one of these would make a great “cruiser” for the trails I ride here in AZ. I will add one to the stable as soon as I have “extra” money! Thanks for including these on the site!!
I got a Mukluk in early December to ride on our New England trails — the Salsa Big Mama just would not work for me after a few inches of snow. The Mukluk is a lot of fun and definitely pushes through where I was stymied before but my regular trails here are rocky and in spite of the float from the tires (at 8psi) my nearly 50 year old body came out of it pretty beat up. In the process of putting on a thudbuster (with real soft elastomers due to the cold) and looking into a front suspension (look on mtbr forum for discussion of solutions).
But in the end, once we get more than 8-10in of snow, I can’t make it go on the trails. Just can’t push through. We have something like 2+ feet sitting there now so I am doing snow shoeing and an occasional road ride at this point ;-(
Still nice to have the option beyond the Big Mama. Looking forward to spring mud rides and beach in the summer ๐
PS — I found that turing around the rear Big Larry tire helped a ton with traction. They came from Salsa with the same orientation front and back.
@BodyMech: I think a lot of folks have the misunderstanding that snow bikes can “float” through deep snow. In fact, they can not. A fat bike needs help in the form of compacted snow, in the case of winter riding, and on beaches, you need to stick to the consolidated sand. Loose, dry sand results in the same “no-go” situation you experienced in the deep snow.
Try snow shoeing over a trail you like several times, and if the snow packs in, then give the Muk another go. You might be better pleased! Also, look for snowmobile trails. Excellent pack in occurs there for snow biking. ๐
Sandman has a prototype Fat Bike Tandem….I have seen some photos. Maverick fork up front. Pretty cool looking……not sure how it performs.
I live in GA and I had my Pugs set up single speed. Loved that bike. It was great going to the local trail and rolling the single track and keeping up with your friends. It really has great trail manners….every once and awhile it would throw me a little and remind me it is a fat bike and rigid. Only saw snow once…..Sad I sold it last year…..got my eye on the Mukluk, but I really enjoyed the Single Speed on the Pugs, so it may be another Pugs for me…..
Got my pugsley four months ago and have more fun than I ever imagined. Forty pounds at 8 psi barreling down the trail is sweet. It’s impossible to pedal in snow deeper than 5-6 inches but packed snow is excellent. Rode it all fall and gripped leaves and wet trails like nothing else. Dry trails are also fun, but honking on this bike takes fitness. Loose steep trails are a snap. The pug will crawl up just about any steep pitch. It’s fun to go back and ride my Waltworks that weighs 16 pounds less and you feel like you can fly. My legs should be ripped come spring!
Got a pugsly before xmas. I can’t stop smiling everytime I ride it!
Yes, clear on the compacted snow bit. Found that trails that have been walked on a bunch are actually quite rough — like a rocky surface as well. I am too close in to Boston to have snowmobile trails in my area sadly. Rode the Big Mama in low tide in the Maine beaches last summer. A lot of fun and you get a GPS track what shows you were a quarter mile into the water ๐ Will be interesting to try the Mukluk this summer.
I have a Pugsley and it is great on the Snowmo-bike trials. Gives me zero excuses for not riding outside in the winter. They are a blast.
One thing that I would love to see as an aftermarket item is a decent fender set up. It would make commuting on it perfect. I know someone makes a really nice wooden set but that is just too nice for abuse.
Its a bit disheartening to see that many folks seem to think that these are limited to snow riding. Over the two years I owned my last Pugsley, it got most of its mileage in the summer riding season. My local trails have a high sand content, making a fat bike absolutely ideal for riding in town. Just like snow, lower the pressure, and off you go. I did find that you can’t just blast through rock gardens with reckless abandon though. Its certainly still possible to get pinch flats. And rolling a fat bike with double pinchies is terribly hard work. Once you find that sweet spot though, fat bikes absolutely RIP on dry trails. And speaking of trials. If you’re into simply exploring the woods, the fat bike is an ideal mode. You don’t NEED a trail. Gear down, and the bike will crawl over anything! If you’re into trail building, use the fat bike to explore the terrain. Find what will be a good line, or just simply ride through the woods. When used appropriately, a fat bike WILL end up being your favorite ride.
Not to be a buzz kill, and trail blazing is certainly fun if you are building trails, but it is best to avoid venturing off of the trail on bike. Makes us look bad in front of a crowd that really does not like us in the first place (that crowd being anyone not on a MTB).
Some jerk on here has to say it: stick to the trails please!
Unless something is trying to eat you. Then by all means, blaze!
Martini, that’s EXACTLY how I plan to build the next phase of our trail for next summer.
BeerBikeBerm, can’t say I agree with you. Obviously common sense needs to be used in political MTB hot spots, but what martini’s talking about is really no more impactful than orienteering.
As long as rules/laws are not being broken then we shouldn’t really care how we look. Seriously, how strange will these ‘moon’ bikes look to 99% of the population? People are going to bitch about things one way or the other, I’ve learned long ago that I’ve got a life to live regardless of what others think about it.
@BeerBikeBerm: Jerk!
There I said it.
I here you though. But I don’t think you really got idea I was going for. The last two lines should have been mentioned [the trail building aspect and appropriate use aspect] first. Like fritz said, not everyones trail access situation is the same. I’m lucky in that I live in an area that has a group of land owners with a couple thousand acres of forested land that allows public use. Until deer season hits [bow and gun], there’s free reign. *IF* you have the capability of riding off trail with repurcusions, DO IT! Fat bikes aren’t like ATV’s. Even though the tires are so large, they hardly leave a footprint. Especially the Endomorph tire.
@BeerBikeBerm, @martini, @Fritz: ell, I like the idea that a fat, fat tire like I have on the Mukluk is going to allow me to go places in a less impactful way than I could go on by foot, in many cases. That said, as has been brought up, you need to use your noggin. ๐ Having a bike that “can go” many places doesn’t mean that you “should go because you can”. ๐
The whole point of martini’s “blazing trails” comment was in the context of opening up new ways for cyclists, and yes, others, to enjoy the outdoors. Done in a responsible, authorized way, it is a positive. Used in a reckless, unauthorized, and selfish manner, it will get “us in hot water” with other users.
Then there are places where it just doesn’t matter where you ride, and I have options like that here where I live. (Flood plains) So, you just have to be smart about it, and proceed with caution. ๐ Not everyone is riding on sensitive environmentally fragile trails, but those who are best stick to the single track.
Points taken! That said, I’m still looking for a friend with one of these bikes so I can try one. And as far as having less impact on the trail with a wider tire, I find that very interesting…always looking for a way to bike with less impact. Perhaps we can make 29er wheels with 2.2″ tires a requirement!
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