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Word just came in that the Soul Cycles Dillinger generation three frames have arrived and in some stunning new colors to boot. The frames can be run with gears or as a single speed with the eccentric bottom bracket, which is now available in anodized colors, by the way. Check out the look here………
Image courtesy of Soul Cycles
The available colors are, from the back, Pearl Root Beer Brown, Pearl White, “Scotch Brite” w/Clear Coat, and Midnight Blue.
For more info go to www.ridesoul.com
I will forever be stumped for the reasons behind EBB.
OK, it’s 50g lighter than sliders, and it saves the manufacturer $30, but o boy, what a plague. Squeaking like an oilless spring and sliding like a drunk sailor. Poor us the riders; spending thousands of dollars on wheels and components and then ride with sub par tensioning contraption.
Funny, I’ve had 3 Phil wood EBB frames and there has been nary a squak, creak, pop or groan from any of them. Nothing other than trouble free running for 1000s of miles!
I guess when it comes to cycling, for every opinion there’s a counter opinion 🙂
Use the Niner EBB and all problems will be solved, never had an issues, genius design.
I’ve had a few bikes with EBBs and never a problem.
Sliders have caused problems for me, but only minor and easily overcome.
I suppose it depends on how you set up a EBB and if the frame has a good solid BB shell to prevent ovalisation.
I have never had any problems with an ebb squeaking either. My Dillinger was never lubed until after a few months. I pulled the ebb and realized I never greased it. Still no squeaks before or after grease.
My sliders? I don’t like them nearly as well for adjusting. Just when I have the wheel where I want it the rear brake seems to pull the wheel just a bit to the left. Uggh! Everytime!
I really like the under the top tube cable routing vs the cable stops on top like gen 1 and 2. I LOVE that the gen 3 also is disc only now.
RubberBoy – ain’t that the truth!
@Captain bob
Are you referring to Paragon Gliders (or their design, thereof)?
When you adjust the wheel the caliper moves along, so the position relative to the wheel is never affected.
Let me clarify my opinion on that matter: horizontal sliders/dropouts have their own share of problems. As Captain pointed out, brake alignment is the biggest one.
However, Paragon Gliders (or their derivatives) works flawlessly (from my experience). Unless you brake a bolt, it’s the ‘silver bullet’.
P.S.: I got a GF RIg and Niner One and both creak to their heart’s content. They also slip on occasion. My friends ride with me only because they also have Rigs, so together we sound like three bionic men without lube in their knees….
@Grant: Yeah that Niner Bio-Centric EBB looks awesome. Great design. I would really like to try that. Until I saw that video I thought the Paragon Sliders might be the best design. But now I’m really anxious to try the Niner EBB.
@Dust:
I must share with you; many people got hyped and subsequently let down.
It is not a panacea. I personally have it on my Niner. Still creaks…
I called them and they suggested plumber tape, sanding the shell, sprinkling blood on it and conjuring evil spirits. Yes, yes, they know it’s not perfect…
You can look the matter up on MTBR. Many zealots have been turned off.
Also, an important point that has been ignored so far EBB effect on seat height. When you change EBB positioning you also affect your pedal stroke. Now, if you are like me, standing most of the time, it’s not a big deal. But if you like to sit–well–that may become an issue.
I’ve had both systems. My eccentric was quick to creak between rebuilds. I like the Paragon sliders much better. Both systems clearly have their pros and cons. Personally, I notice the difference in wheelbase less than the change in seat height. Just my 2 cents.
I think the el-cheapo EBB setups are the evil ones. My Raleigh XXIX’s stock EBB was terrible. It needed tightened every ride, it made noise, and it began ovalizing the shell (a rather thin shell for a pinch bolt EBB, IMO).
So I ordered a Bushnell EBB and I only ever touch it when changing cogs or if it has been a while and I want to clean it out. I’m not sure if I’d get an EBB bike ever again, but the Bushnell saved me from selling the frame and wasting money.
While every single speed tensioning system has its compromises, the Sould Cycles EBB was no trouble for me and Captain Bob. The way it is designed for that particular frame is pretty bomber.
That said, my favorite way to do a EBB is the split shell way. I have had zero issues with that system on an OS Bikes Blackbuck, and 2010 Raleigh XXIX’s will also be featuring a split shell system.
I have had sevearl slider systems including Paragons. The sliders are the only ones that have let me down. (Not Paragons though)
In the end, the only bomb proof way to go is track ends, but they have compromises with the disc brakes and removal of rear wheels to futz with. Other than that, they are great.
Back on topic: The Soul Cycles Dillinger EBB is well done and should be great for most folks.
Their forks are in too! Sexy colors again!
Why is it when we discuss a specific frame with an EBB, all reads lead to a list of likes and dislikes in general about ebb’s themselves which are never substantiated. Got a complaint with experience to this specific frame design used with a specific EBB shell then lets talk about the frame and design and the company.. not your laundry list
It is like all those 29er bike reviews on mtbr that say noting about the company and specific frame design but are more a review on 29er theory in general
I just got the new blah blah 29 and the wheels roll better over stuff than my 26 therefore this is a great bike?… ok really
What is the Dillinger Escape Plan if the EBB makes noise?
If my ebb makes noise in the woods and no one is there to hear it but me did it really make a noise?
real question now
What is up with those stays? looks sick. are they shaped for compliance? will this frame take a fat bastard like me?
@BigChris
If you need to change you seat position every time that you tighten your chain with EBB, does it make less hassle if someone hear you cursing?
GT looking at the site there is not much news
are the gen3′ only a color update or is there something different I am missing to the gen2?
@BigChris: Gen III Dillingers are disc specific now and the cable routing is now underneath the top tube rather than on top. The stays are rather stiff. This bike is burly, durable, and tough. (We got to test a Gen I frame a while back) If you’re a big guy, the Dillinger will do right by you.
On the topic of the EBB. On the test model we had, it never made a noise. It was quite easy to adjust, and otherwise was invisible. YMMV.