The Ragley Carnegie’s Bar is an “alt bar” for aggressive riding that I introduced here, and did a First Impressions post on here. Now that I have trail tested the bar for awhile, I am ready to give my final thoughts on the Carnegie’s.
The bar was on my Salsa Cycles Big Mama for the entire testing period. I used it mostly for single track rides in varying conditions. Handle bars are one of those components that are personal, and when you find a bar that works, it doesn’t really need much attention afterward if it is doing the job of steering your bike and letting you ride how you want to. Such was the case with the Carnegie’s Bar. For my intentions and preferences, this handle bar is top of the heap.
The Carnegie’s Bar is stiff. You won’t find it to be compliant, and with aggressive riding, you really don’t want that in a handle bar anyway. The Carnegie’s points your front wheel where ever you want with authority, and without a hint of flex. This also comes in rather handy when things get hot and heavy in technical situations. The Carnegie’s delivers control here as well. The sweep is just right for my arms, wrists, and hands. Not too much sweep that it interferes with turning or control, and not too little that it is just trying to mimic a traditional riser. Speaking of riser bars, the Carnegie’s has a bit of rise, which I found to be okay with my set up. If that amount gets in the way on a 29″er, usually you have the option of swapping out a couple of spacers, or you could run the Carnegie’s upside down.
So, what’s not to like? Well, I had enough room to get my controls right…….but just that. Maybe some “wiggle room” by allowing a bit of cuttable extra width might be nice in the future, but the Carnegie’s should be wide enough for most folks. Perhaps an optional silver anodized hue? But really, if you want “alt bar” and big hit control, it doesn’t get much better than this. In fact, as far as I am concerned- it doesn’t. Other “alt bars” are just not up to the task.
Conclusions: Bottom line: If you want more sweep in a trail worthy bar, you really don’t have many choices. The Carnegie’s Bar delivers with toughness, good looks, and a great design that functions well for aggressive riding. It might be a tad narrow if you like really wide bars, but otherwise the Carnegie’s Bar should be on your radar. Bonus: I am hearing a version with an upside down logo and something in a “black” alternative to aluminum is on the horizon for the Carnegie’s Bar. Stay tuned………….
“Black alternative to aluminum”….schwing!!
exactly. if the non-alloy “black” version comes out, it will make the choice between a Salsa carbon w/ 17-degree sweep and the Ragley very difficult. I was thinking Salsa all the way, but if the rumors turn out to be true…
So the big question is… when/where can I get this without having to pay international shipping?
@Matt, chainreactioncycles.com in the UK is the only place I know of, $56 plus 16 int’l shipping makes it a pretty pricey alloy bar.
When will Ragley parts be sold here?
@Matt: I know Brant is watching this closely. If there is enough of a demand, I’m sure he’ll find a way to make it happen.
t0m, I forget but I looked at ChainReactionCycles and if you order 2 or 3 bars the shipping was the same. I tried finding some local peeps to split the cost of shipping but nobody signed on.
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Have been running these upside down on my small niner SIR frame and they are AWESOME. Was running a fleegle pro with no spacers but have added 2 x 5mm spacers under the flipped carnegie and the sweet spot has been nailed!! The control you get from these is great, almost seems to put your reactions/compensations in slow motion but your trail speed is higher, a strange phenomenon but a good one. Looking forward to the solo 24hr in December too as these babies are comfy!!! Brant you are a genius!!
ps bought from ChainReactionCycles and shipped to South AFrica, did buy 3 of them and some other swag though to get free shipping. No hassles.
We have flat (no rise) and flipped versions coming very soon.
And hopefully a sample “new” version before Christmas.
The non-alloy version sounds like an absolutely awesome addition to my single speed Superfly. Will be watching.
Thanks.
@Anonymous, thanks for the tip, combined shipping would be worth it. The flat bar has me intrigued, that probably is the one I should get. So after that comes out, maybe some of us can put together a group buy from chainreactioncycles? Any interest?
Combined shipping would probably only work well if everyone lived in approx. the same part of the country… otherwise domestic shipping would eat up most of the $16 saved.
I piped in previously, but I have Carnegie’s bar and love it. Would jump at the chance to buy a “black alternative to alumimum” version.
I’ve been reading these reviews very closely, and I believe I will be getting these bars as soon as I can afford them. I was worried about having to pay a ton for import fees or whatever if I ordered from chainreactioncycles.com, but that doesn’t sound like the case. Just a little more expensive shipping, and that’s it. Thanks for the review of the bars, Ted.
I’m stoked to hear all this. I like the sweep bars, but my steel Mary’s have too much sweep, so much that it makes switchbacks feel like I’m tied up in knots. Can’t turn the bars far enough.
It will definitely come down to these and the Salsa flat 17’s.
Put me down for an alt-black option when/if they go to production. Definitely interested.
ChainReactionCycles site says they’re out of stock of these now. Anyone know if they’ll get new stock in (or where else to order)?
I was a little bit worried about the weight,but with the WCS softgrips made it about 50grams heavier than my original Specialized 165gr bar with the original grips.
Funny to tell that i m worried about the weight ,when you know my weight is more than 200pounds!Nuff about that!great bar! and its stiff and looks very sexy on my Stumpy HT 29.Can t wait fot the carbon..I live in The Netherlands and the price 46 EURO is very resonable!
One day,everybody on a twentyniner..
If you want this bar for a good price,try http://www.singlespeed.nl.Don‘t tell anyone….
GT-
…developed elbow problems running the Soma Clarence (40• sweep) last season. I’ve decided to look into a lesser-sweep, but don’t want to give up that feel entirely. Care to comment? Luv Handles? Carnegie Bar? Ritchie? Other?
As always, thanks; loving the OS Blackbuck we discussed last fall-hits the spot!
@Flatlandr: I would take a look at the Carnegie’s Bar, which is in the 26 degree range, as I recall, or maybe the Luv Handles. (Not sure what angle Rody builds those to, but it looks similar to the Carnegie’s)
Another good bar is the Salsa 17 degree bar.
Glad you are liking the Blackbuck. Still loving mine! 🙂
So, anything on getting the Carnegie’s in the States?