Orbea was the first company to mass produce a 29’er carbon fiber hard tail bike called the Alma. The bike has been a big success for the company, that is, if you fit the one and only size that Orbea ever offered the Alma in. That all changes today with Orbea’s announcement of the 2011 Alma which now will come in three sizes and two colorways. But that isn’t all that is different with this new version of the Alma 29.
Orbea has packed in some modern features into this new Alma 29. But before we get to that, I think it is worth taking a look at where Orbea has come from with 29″ers. The lead in to their press release tells of the daring entry into the 29″er market for a company, from Europe no less, where at the time 29″ers were rather laughable. Here is the opening paragraph:
It is amazing how far the 29″ wheel has come since we launched the world’s first production monocoque carbon 29er at Sea Otter in 2006. The Alma 29 that was once a big risk has evolved into a staple of our mountain bike line up. Big wheels are so much more than a niche-filler for us at Orbea, they’ve become our favorite way to ride.
So you can see that Orbea stuck with the Alma, even though it may have been a bit before its time in 2006, and now, as we all know, carbon fiber hard tails are all the rage. Not many companies can say that they have already had success in carbon fiber 29″ers, nor that they have advanced to a more refined model already. In this Orbea is at the forefront.
Features: The technical features that Orbea has brought to the fore with the new Alma 29″er are many. Things like shorter chain stays, a BB-30 bottom bracket, a tapered head tube, and increased tire clearance over the original Alma 29. Orbea also borrowed some technologies from the 26 inch wheeled version of the Alma as well. The “Size Specific Nerve” being one, which is a way of optimizing carbon layup and structure for each size. The cable routing is also carried over from the 26″er to the 29 inch wheeled Alma. Called “DCR Cable Routing”, it was developed in tandem by Orbea with the assistance of Gore. Weight was reduced from the original Alma 29 frameset by as much as 150 to 200 grams depending on the size of the frame.
Geometry And Sizing: As noted, the Alma 29 will now be available in three sizes. These will be Small/16.5″, Medium/18.5″, and Large/20.5″. All geometries listed are based off a 100mm fork with 46mm offset.
-Head Angle: 71.5 for the Small and Medium with 72 degrees for the Large.
-Seat Tube Angle: 73 degrees across the size range.
-Effective Top Tube Sizes: 22.6″ Small, 23.2″ Medium, and 24.4″ Large.
-Chain Stay Length: 17.3″
-Bottom Bracket Drop: 2.6″/65mm
-Wheelbases: Small 41.7″, Medium 42.1″, and Large 43″
Frame price has been set at $1799.00 U.S.D. The complete Orbea Alma 29 models will be offered in four versions in Black or White colorways. The “Alma 29 S10” designation is a SRAM XX equipped bike with a Fox fork and Mavic Cr29ssmax wheels. The “S30” designation seems to be a Shimano XTR 10 speed equipped bike, again with the Mavic wheel set. Their will also be a 10 speed XT equipped “S50” designated Alma 29 model that moves to a Reba fork and Shimano XT pre-built wheel set. Finally, a X-9 2 X 10 “S70” variant will be offered again with a Reba fork. This model seems to have a Mavic hooped wheel set, although no mention of any hubs are made in the spec chart we received. As of press time, no prices have been announced and no word on availabilities.
The Alma 29 will be getting flogged this weekend under Georgia Gould of the Luna Chix squad at the Mellow Johnny’s Classic near Austin Texas this weekend. We’ll have more on this new model in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!
Looks great !
Just one thing I’d like to know…
If new Alma has BB30 bottom bracket, how will they pair that up with Shimano drivetrains ?
Some kind of adapters ?
Singe speed?
@Gilhooley: There are shims that will allow for a Shimano BB to be used in a BB-30 shell, but I do not have the bottom bracket spec in the press release. I will try to find that out, and if I get an answer, I will post back here.
@chuckc1971: Unfortunately no word on whether this allows for a single speed set up. I’m guessing no.
What about Full suspension Alma with 100mm travel just like Superfly and superfly 100?
I’m not gonna lie right now where the seat tube is located looks REALLY BAD. cool looking bike though except for that
I may have drunk the coolade. But from where I am sitting, on a flash carbon 29ner1, is there really any need for a full suspension 29ner. Market forces are market forces, but really, it is mountain biking after all, how smooth does the trail need to be?
Answers:
The Shimano equipped bikes are fitted with the FSA adapter to allow the use of a standard outboard bearing bottom bracket.
No plans fo a single speed at this time.
No plans for a FS model at this time.
Nice “colorways”!
The kink in the top tube is interesting. I’m no engineer, but that just seems to be an odd design.
All in all, cool looking frame, not a bad price for frame only, and size options. Win, win, win. Options are always good.
GT, do you think the BB shell is more in line with a BB30 shell versus the Niner AIR9 CYA BB using different adapters? If the shell is the same size then a Niner eccentric can be used for one speeding. I’m assuming it’s not compatible.
How much extra development is necessary for the cable routing. Jeez, the cable runs and stops look pretty conventional to me. I think the available innovations have been worked out at this point, ya know. Does Gore offer special cables just for this frame?
@ David Copperfield- What about adding modular handles that could make it usable as a wheelbarrow?
What about putting sirens on it just like a fire engine?
Could it be a completely different thing than it is just because you have to ask?
@t0m be my guest. If someone like it as an option ,not as an inherent parts, why not. Same for FS or SS. Choose your weapon. Same happened with Superfly 100.
If you go to their website that funky top tube is part of their 4X4 triangle. On their website they are most proud of their new headtube. So far they seem to be exploring carbon’s potential the most. I now wish they would make carbon forks to boot…
Also on their website they call a crank a “connecting rod”. Makes sense to me……..
I wonder, is this a global press release stating they prefer 29″ for their riding, or just an Orbea USA type of sourced one?
A serious foot note to all the rave of their long-stading 29″ success, is that they seem to NOT have updated theoir basic geometry (if memory serves me), since their first go at it. Forks have changed. The original Alma’s head tube angle was picked to match the only suspension fork then available, the 39mm offset of the Rockshox Reba.
@Steve: I do not think it is at all the same size. I do think that an eccentric could be made for a BB-30 though, and I wonder if some entrepreneur has already taken up that idea. It would be a great product that should work well, I would think. Especially in light of that eccentric that someone makes for a European BB shell.
@Cloxxki: I see where you are coming from, but I would bet Orbea’s original geometry did not take into account a 100mm travel fork and a 46mm offset, as this new version does. 😉
It would seem that with the fork changes you would get somewhat of a different feel riding this bike versus the old one with a first generation 80mm travel Reba.
Website says frame weights(I assume for the small) 1050 grams, THATS 2.3 LBS. 2.3pounds!
I would think that a sub-20lbs bike with fork and gears would be very possible. 2.3 lbs
@Cloxxki-This press release was written for the USA market, we will modify it slightly for Europe and probably include some old-school 26 vs. 29 text. 😉
GT is right, the geo is designed this time for a 100mm fork with modern offset. It was important for us to work from 100mm because we feel it’s a lot more versatile and suits a wider range of riders. For those who want telepathic XC handling, it’s easy enough to run an 80mm fork and get a steep front end.
@Willie-Frame weight will be approximately 1250g for a Medium frame. Could you be looking at the specs for Alma Gold 26″ frame?
@tOm- The DCR uses a Gore cable and only two sections of housing. In our opinion, it’s a noticeable improvement in shifting over a standard 3 piece housing setup. The stops also do a nice job of wrangling the brake hose without a lot of plastic clamps.
Thanks Orbea!
I know you wouldn’t dare to put that out in Spanish… 🙂
If you keep the same head angle, while going to 46mm offset AND 100mm, in my simply view, the ride becomes quite a bit more twitchy, especially braking into downhill turns. You Seem to have added build-in height for the extra fork travel, and the 7mm extra offset makes the bike handle quicker. In you use 50% of the travel with hard brake shatter going into a turn, the new bike will have a steeper head tube angle too.
But, I slam all 29″ bike companies who don’t ask me before building anyway, so don’t take it personal 😉
Keep making the good stuff. Europe can’t resist much longer!
J
@Orbea thanks for devoting us your time. You, however, didn’t reply to the tossed idea of FS Alma 29er. I would welcome such a 100mm Alma frame. I guess you don’t have such in plans, then I modify the question and ask -When will you realese a FS Alma? 2013 2015? And what’s making you slow relactant on FS 29ers?
@Davidcopperfield:
If they ever make such bike, the name of that bike is going to be Oiz 29er.
Now go and look it up!
@Orbea:
When I think of it – you guys should really take Oiz 29er into consideration. That would be fantastic and unique bike (at least until Scalpel 29er comes out).
The name doesn’t matter either way I’d be happy. If Orbea adds a longer travel 120mm frame in carbon with an option of rear maxle I’ll be elated. Same or similar way the superfly ht went to superfly FS 110mm. Some may grumble at it, but hey they don’t have to buy it, yet I shall. There is no 120mm FS 29er with 135×12 or 150x12mm make a light rear maxle 🙂 I’m sure a substantial number of light trail bikers will be all over it. 🙂
I meant there is no carbon long travel 29er 120mm and more.
Huh… Only water-bottle bosses on the downtube? I’m hoping that the pictures are of size small, and that the larger sizes have a water-bottle mount on the seat-tube…
Otherwise, the frame looks schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
@Cloxxki – True, the new Alma 29 has an aggressive head angle, but that was very much on purpose because we want this frame to appeal to 26″ racers and eliminate complaints of slow handling. We know it won’t suit everybody, but it gives the feel we were looking for.
It is possible to run an external lower 1p5 headset cup to slacken the head angle by .5 degree and this will only raise the BB by approximately 5mm. Might look kinda cool! 🙂
@LilGasPasser – The M and L will both have a second bottle mount on the seat tube.
On another note: Tire Clearance… we’ve got it! I hope to be able to run the 2.4 Racing Ralph for dry conditions. All 2.2 tires we have looked at will have good clearance for slop. As any Alma or Lanza owner can tell you, the clearance in the past has been minimal at best.
@Orbea: The tire clearance issue was a bit of a problem, but I am glad to hear that this is cleared up now, and not only that, but that the chain stay length has been shortened a bit in the process. Here at TNI we’re gravitating towards bikes with longer top tubes, shorter chain stays, and set up with shorter stems. They just seem to handle better in our view. Good to see that the new Alma has gone in this direction.
@Orbea:
When will the frame be available in Europe, esp. in Germany? Suggested retail price?
Congrats to Orbea for making everything right, aside from missing PM for the rear brakes. 😉
Could be my next race bike!
BB30 and a tapered fork. Not sure there is another frame except the Niner Carbon that has both options. Would be nice to see the PressFit30 though. On paper seems easier to deal with.
@Orbea, have you got ‘stack’ and ‘reach’ measurements of the new geometry?
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Oops – I now read of improved tyre clearance. Room for a RR 2.4 – fantastic!
Anyone want my mark 1 frame? I now need a Mark 2 …..damn.
Nice looking bike!
…and it comes in aluminium too, that may bring it within my reach…
I can see they use tappered head tubes nowdays…
Will my 2009 reba team 29er fork work with a tappered frame, if yes, how???
Thanx Ted, Great service!
@QueSera: Yes, you can use a straight 1 1/8th” steer tube fork in a tapered steer tube compatible frame using one of Cane Creek’s reducer cups. 🙂