Tubular Verdict – part 1: AX – LIGHTNESS / TUNE Tubular Wheels: by c_g
It has been a long time since I last posted my ride impressions on these “uber-wheels” (here) At 1116 g for the complete set they are sure to be among the lightest 29er wheels in existence. What is even more amazing is that they do this with a more or less standard built of 32 spokes and 3x cross lacing – though admittedly with the lightest ingredients possible :). If you want to recap the intro and tech info on the AX-LIGHTNESS/TUNE tubular 29er wheels, have a look (here).
USE: These wheels have been ridden on and off throughout the entire year. All in all they have been subject to loads of technical rides and long XC style outings with occasional jumps and minor drops. They have seen lots of foul weather as well. Though ridden a lot and hard, I admit I have never put them into real race action, which is what they really are made for – simply because the opportunity didn’t materialize. I don´t think many people will be using such a set for general and trail riding like I did, but the simple fact that they held up fine throughout, it is a good indication of their capabilities.
For mounting them on the ROCKY MOUNTAIN Element they have been converted from quick release to 15 mm front and 142/12 rear – a thing that does require some technical skills. The entire hub is built on a very tight fit and so taking out both axles, pressing the new ones in and adjusting the bearing play via 0.1 mm spacers is something that requires some caution and skill. Most riders will probably do better to get them in hands of some experienced mechanic for conversion.
In my ride impressions I have stated the three prime qualities of the TUNE/AX-Lightness wheels:
They are LIGHT, STIFF & FAST.
I don´t think I need to emphasize the lightness any further. Often, when getting off other test wheels (and check my record, none of them have been heavy :)), I was amazed what difference the low weight and rotational mass made. All of a sudden I was feeling like a “hero on climbs”, making my riding buddies wonder “what great shape he was in this day”. I acknowledge that when running light components the amazement wears out as one gets used to the lower weight, mentally and physically taking it for granted. but here the difference was so prominent that the effect wore off much, much slower … they are so much faster.
Be sure that when you have them as race day wheels only that you got yourself a real world advantage and a very special psychological boost all at once.
Luckily this record weight is also coupled with a very high lateral stiffness – easily as stiff as any other XC wheels I have ridden this year, actually stiffer than ANY 29″er set of wheels I have ridden this year.
In the light of our carbon rim series – here is an example of a rim (made of carbon) that is lighter than almost anything out there, yet leads to a laterally stiff wheel you have to try to believe. I am convinced much of this lack of flex comes from the carbon rims themselves, but the traditional 32 spokes with 3x lacing, plus the high spoke tension do have a big part in creating such an excellent performer as well.
Furthermore all engineers I talked to agree that from their perspective using Carbon on a tubular rim construction is the optimal way to benefit from the material´s properties – and I have no reason to disagree!!
TUNE/AX-Lightness wheel VERDICT: When it comes to putting my verdict together, I see that my former words remain true 100% – these wheels are nothing short of amazing and I can confidently say that in direct comparison most other wheel sets will feel slow.
With all the time and miles on them I can say they have taken my riding willingly without any fussing, which at that extremely low weight is really good. These wheels (together with tubular tires) have an ability to make riding and particularly climbing seem (almost :)) effortless. The AX-Lightness/Tune wheels are highlight for sure and a revelation to most riders who have never ridden anything alike but the price tag of nearly 3 grand for a set of wheels will probably appeal to only a select few.
The TUNE Prince (front) and Princess (rear) hubs are extremely light and still durable– the conversion option, though quite elaborate and not as consumer friendly as the exchangeable end caps in many other wheels, is further icing on the cake. My set of test wheels with Tune´s limited 20th anniversary edition (with the beautiful laser etched graphics, that are near impossible to photograph) with the serial number 0029 has been yet another touch that is almost too much to take without getting spoiled :).
WOW….
Lots of machining in every nook and cranny on those hubs. I am sure the labor to do that, and engineering to not go too far added to the price tag.
Do you inject any sealant into the tubeless tires in order to help mitigate trail side repairs?
Seems the cross section of the rims would make them stronger than a normal rim profile at the same weight. All round forms, and no corners to create stress risers.
They misspelled ‘tire’ 😀
Dgaddis: … only of you are from the US. British English spelling is ‘tyre’ – thus from our Euro perspective correct ;-).
Last time I looked the language was called ‘English’ – not American – and everyone except Americans generally agrees on spelling…
“Two countres divided by a common language” and all that…..
The wheels are amazingly light and expen$ive(!), but I’m wondering how durable and flat resistant the tyres are, and what one does if one gets a flat, especially in muddy conditions. I suppose this isn’t a big deal on a smallsh circuit course, but walking lots of km out in the boonies wouldn’t be too much fun.
@ stephen: You are touching on a general thing between tubulars and clincher wheels. Roadside repairs are pretty difficult and in most cases impossible with tubulars – inserting some sealant and hope it will work is usually the best you can do. Though very easy to work with the Tufo tape – exchanging a tire on the trail with it, is bound for problems and not advisable (, and you´d have to carry a spare tire with you as well).
On the other hand despite my best efforts I have yet to manage pinch flatting a tubular MTB tire, they seem to hold up extremely well (due to the difference in rim and tire construction). Sidewall tears are the only thing I am scared of when riding a tubular, but that hasn´t happened either so far. Besides, on a flat tubular one can still ride (carefully), which on clichers is possible only to a very small extend.
–> IMO it is a lot harder to damage a tubular than it is with a (similar weight/strength) clincher type tire, but if it happens it is likely to be more of an issue to repair.
Thanks c_g.
A friend used to use CX tubulars for touring and had some issues with changing tyres when muddy, hence my question. I’ve been sort of curious abut this whole thing as I recall Mavic offering (26″ alu) tubular rims years ago, and not hearing much about them, or seeing any in use. If the MTB tyres are durable that makes them a lot more viable. (But I’m not sure I’d be too keen to use them if going far away from a trail head.)
Actually repairing punctured tubulars is a bit of a black art, and I’m not sure it’s still possible to send them off to get it done, at least here in Oz. In theory, it’s pretty straightforward, but the reality is it takes skill and/or practice to keep the casing straight when sewing things back together.
Anyway, I doubt I’ll ever be buying any AX Lightness anything, unless perhaps they offer valve caps. 🙂
how to deal with punctures? that’s the only issue which stops me from buying tubular set
@ Adam: I have had two small punctures on the GEAX tubs and had them repaired by injecting some latex sealant with no issues. With the Tufos I simply have had more luck and no puctures yet. If they don´t seal, then there is not a whole lot you can do trailside.
Will you be doing a separate review on the Tufo’s?
I read the first impressions, but still curious about their weight and how the tape held up.
@ JeroenK: That is why it is called “Tubular verdict part I” – the Tufos will come up in part II soon :-).
c_g good report and great job of answering questions in these comments. Thank you! When your review is over do you HAVE to return the equipment?
@ yogi: 🙂 … 😉
I love coming to this site for the latest gear for 29er… but when was the last time you gave a negative review?
@jShort: This is a great question, and I love answering it, actually. The thing is, most things we get we review “in context” for the most part. So, c_g wasn’t doing four foot drops to flat with these wheels because, well……that would be crazy, right? 😉
Taken into context to a degree, (c_g did ride these arguably “race day only” wheels as “daily drivers”), the AX Lightness/Tune wheels did really well, and they should. They are a fine product. That’s the thing- most stuff we get to review isn’t sub-par, or bad for the context it is meant for.
However; that isn’t to say that there are no negatives to these wheels. Cost is obviously high. Axle transformation is not easily done. Both “negatives” were clearly covered in this review. Tubular tires are not everyone’s cup of tea either, and this also is apparent from c_g’s comments here.
Maybe these are “the greatest thing since sliced bread” for some folks, and for others, there are plenty of negatives to be found in the review. That’s why we write in detail and ride the products- so you can more easily decide what would be right for you. 😉
Finally, we do sometimes get some real clunkers, and a few that “miss the mark” for review, but they are admittedly fewer and further between. 🙂
Hope that clears that up for you.
Thanks for the response. Great site and keep up the good work.
The Prince hub is the rear, while the Princess is the front in Tune hubs. Tune should’ve given you the elusive Dezibel hubs for the rear. 😉