Frostbike 2013: Report #2- by Guitar Ted
The annual dealer only show at Quality Bicycle Products in Bloomington, Minnesota has concluded, but we have some more to show you besides the stunning Carbon Beargrease fat bike we showed you yesterday. Here are the rest of the notable things I saw for 29″ers there.
Salsa Cycles: This stunning variation on the tandem Salsa Cycles has been working on for a couple of years made a bow at Frostbike. This is the next generation after the version noted being ridden last summer on Tour Divide. The same Alternator drop outs are here, but there have been a few tweaks.
The tandem was shown with the White Brothers Loop dual crown fork, but will also be tested with a steel unicrown fork. The fork features a through axle and tapered steer tube. Salsa had no estimated time for a possible production model, but the intention is to move forward with this flat bar version and finalize a production version in the future.
Tires:
By far and away the most news was found in the tire segment. We got our first glimpses of some previously announced tires and a couple of new ones were seen at the show as well.
The first tire we hadn’t seen before was WTB’s “Vigilante” model. This is a 2.3″er, All Mountain tire with aggressive block tread styling. The tread compound is WTB’s “Dual DNA 50/60 type, and it is a TCS, (tubeless compatible), tire, of course. The tire also features a nylon protective sidewall treatment for rough, rocky, and abusive terrain. The weight is a claimed 940 grams and expected MSRP is $74.95 USD. We were told the tire is available now.

We got our first look at the Hutchinson Mamba, which a XC racing tread featuring low, small blocks, a triple compound, and is tubeless ready. The triple compound consists of a typical dual compound tread block set up: Outer knobs are softer for grip and the middle stiffer to lower rolling resistance, while the third compound is an underlayment to support the tread blocks in cornering.
Commuter Tires: It may be strange to think of, but commuter tires for 29″ers are becoming more commonplace than ever. Here are a couple I noted:

The Schwalbe “Big Ben”, which is offered in two different versions and four different colors, is a new tire for Schwalbe and slots into their “balloon” tire line with the well known Big Apple. The Big Ben will be offered in creme, (shown), Anthracite, “Braun”, (a sort of brick red hue), and black.

WTB showed the “Slick 2.2″er”, a thickly treaded commuter smoothy that should weigh about 824 grams and will retail for MSRP $34.99.
WTB also has an urban line called “Freedom”, and there is a commuter/slick tread model offered under that branding as well, which is a different tire altogether.
The Frostbike coverage for 2013 will close out with this peek at SRAM’s XX-1 group, which was available to check over closely by the show attendees. We heard that this group will see heavy spec throughout many of upcoming 2014 lineups. We also were tipped to fully expect it to trickle down a couple of levels, (at least), which should see the revolutionary ideas presented in XX-1 available at lower price points.













Will XX-1 be available in 180mm cranks? Currently it is not. Or is it possible to adapt the ring to non-SRAM (180mm) crank?
@Motivated: SRAM is not doing a 180mm in XX-1 now. However; White Industries introduced an XX-1 compatible spider for their cranks at NAHBS, so that could be a solution, (albeit with square tapered cranks).
xx1 spider should slip onto an 180mm x9 arm as long as both cranks are of the same bottom bracket type, both bb30 or both gxp — I say should, but don’t quote me on that as I have not tried it myself.
The XX1 spider and crank arms are specific. I can’t see how an XX1 spider could swap to another crank. XX1 rings, however can but the PCD or BCD is quite small – can’t recall exactly and couldn’t be bothered measuring.
But in case anyone is wondering – they perform exactly as stated. There is no hype and the journos arÉ not on the take. Chains both XX1 11speed and even regular 10 §peed don’t come off and the shifting is solid and precise. Chain supeBest groupset quiet – only tugs a bit on really rough ground. Brilliant drive system.
Ps
Some XC race guys have snapped chains but that could be anything. MÝ experience after about 2 months and perhaps a dozen rÍdes is very good.
Performance may change as the chainrings wear out. Let’s see !
Is that prototype rigid fork a 20mm or 15mm axle? Interesting to come up with a new fork using IS vs post mounts for the caliper, at least these days; seems post is almost universal…
@Rob Maybach: I believe it is 15QR Maxle, but do not quote me on that. I will check in and let you know.
@Rob Maybach: Just got word direct from Salsa- 15mm through axle.
Professed, they changed the way they are keyed? Cursory glance at photos they look the same. (Big thumbs down to SRAM if they changed the way they are keyed for no-good-reason).
Ted,
Can you say whether or not the regular Mukluk’s will be sporting the through axle’s for 2014? Just about the only thing that would get me to upgrade my 2012.
Thanks
GS1: No, I am afraid that info is embargoed until June. Stay tuned….
@professed- The spider will fit on other SRAM carbon crankarms, the spline is the same. Its the chainring that is specific to the spider.
about the HUTCHINSON Mamba: We are expecting a set for test really soon here at TNI Europe.
Anyone mention the new OD crank or more agressive 29+ tires?
Thanks for all the info ya give us!
@Bz: I visited Surly and their main focus was, (or so it seemed from speaking with their Brand manager, Tyler Stilwel), the new Big Dummy bags and the limited edition Special Ops Pugsley.
Tyson perhaps so but the arrangement looks completely different to me. Have not had any need to pull it apart but it looks like a press fit oversized key to which you atatch the spider.Strip down required to confirm.
The 29er commuter tires thing baffles me – I’ve been running 700x28c gatorskins on my 29er ‘road’ wheelset for years, same for many buddies. Wouldn’t run anything else! Saves huge weight, gives roadies a scare when they can’t shake you on your ‘hybrid’…
@ Tyson. Confirm spline is the same. Sram uses a press fit key to which the spider connects rather than a direct connection.
PS, after 2 months the CCTV grip shifter imploded. Could next be bad luck.