2013 Specialized Epic Marathon: First Impressions- by Grannygear
Ok, so now that we had the 2013 Specialized Epic Marathon out of that huge bike box it came in, it was time to get it out on trail. But first I needed to get the suspension set up. Autosag is something so simple that you have to wonder why it took so long to invent. It takes the guesswork out of setting the correct sag in the rear suspension based on the rider’s weight but still allowing a more advanced rider to custom tune to his or her predilections. So, to get the rear done, I took the rear Brain settings to full open as well as the rebound adjustment, put 300psi into the rear shock, then mounted the bike, leaned forward so as to have my hands on the bars while supporting myself against a post with my shoulder (this is easier to do with a buddy), then reached down with my left hand and pressed the red bleed valve till it stopped going “pppfffttt”. Done. Contrary to that you might expect, the shock did not compress, but rather it extended. This is due to the fact that you are bleeding the negative chamber first. Then, with the red schraeder valve closed, you cycle the shock a bit…bounce up and down on it…then measure static sag just to be sure. The suggested sag should be 11mms from the dirt wiper to the o-ring, based on your static body weight. I did this process several times to see how reliable it was and it was exactly that each time…11mm. The Brain knob was set to approx the middle setting for now.
The fork, being a Solo Air SID, was just a simple deal, sort of. I set it to the suggested setting based on my weight per the printed scale on the fork but I was not getting the sag I expected. I do wonder if the Brain in the fork is messing with that a bit? I ended up at 90psi for now and that gave me 20% sag. The Brain on the fork is interesting and I am still playing with it, although I think I have come to a conclusion. More on that in later posts. The rebound adjustment is top side stacked above the 5 position Brain knob so things are easy to get to. I set the Brain fork settings mid way as well and off we went.
It is pretty obvious right away that this bike is intended to be a racy, aggressive scoot in an XC sense. The narrow carbon bar (680mm), the long stem, even though I shortened it to 105mm from the stocker 110mm, gives you a forward, low, and tucked in feel to the cockpit. I had forgotten how the Brain so affects how an Epic pedals. They just feel fast right away and the light wheels in no way impeded that feeling. Zoom. However, on the flip side, I was struck by how much small impacts transfer through to the rider because of the platform approach to suspension control. Having that Brain effect at both ends made it even more apparent. Now you can dial that back and open things things to a point, but do you want to? Final thoughts on that when we wrap this bike test up. The first ride on the Marathon was a 4 mile dirt road climb with the wife and doggie. Even at a cruising pace, it felt like I was barely working on the ascent. Great wheels transform a 29″er, and add in a stiff, carbon chassis, the light weight overall, and the Brain deal and Strava records may fall (well not mine…but yours perhaps. I say “no” to Strava).
This is the stiffest chassis of any Specialized FS bike I have had on test. Now I do not have hard numbers to back that up, but I would bet on it. Combined with those pretty stout but light Control Carbons, you get a bike that changes directions easily and with the narrow bar and long stem, a confident, experienced rider can get down the trail with a purpose. Purpose is a good word for this bike, or purposeful, perhaps.
The Magura brakes took a bit to bed in and actually begin to stop me, but they have been smooth and quiet and they are very progressive. They do not seem to be very powerful though, but that may just require more break in time. We shall see. The XO Gripshift and XO drivetrain seems very solid and I like the 24/38T chainring combo very much. I am not sure if I have needed the 24/36 full granny gear combo yet as this bike pedals awfully well.
Actually, brilliantly well if you think that an FS that responds to pedaling inputs like a hard tail is a good thing. And whether you are seated or standing, that rear Mini Brain shock and FSR linkage barely cycles at all to either pedaling forces or the rise and fall of your body. Unique. But depending on the Brain setting and shock pressure, it will ‘open up’ and move upon a bump force that is above the threshold you have set. The end result is a firm to harsh feeling when you are just putting along on a smooth-ish trail but as speeds increase or the bumps grow bigger, the Brain opens up and lets the suspension work. The Brain fork is not quite what I expected. It does not quite have the same performance as the rear Brain in that, except for the last two most aggressive settings on the control dial, the fork will gently cycle through 10mms or so of travel as you stand and climb but then sag no further. Then, in any of the settings, when a bump force comes along that exceeds the threshold, it gives you all the travel you need. I have to say that I am working through this, but, as I have said before, I think I have come to a conclusion here but need more time to be sure.
I am getting the impression that, compared to any Epic model I have been on (never ridden the S Works), this one is the most narrowly focused on going fast as well as having a more aggressive Mini Brain. There have been times that I have pushed the bike very hard while dueling with ‘da’ boyz’ and it is very impressive how it responds. I am the limit here, not the bike. But consequently it may be giving up the broader appeal in the process. Is that a bad thing? Not as long as you know that going in and frankly, it may be a very positive thing depending on what you are looking for.
For instance on a recent Tuesday night ride, which tends to be a hard effort, the Epic kept me in the fight on the uphills against another media wag on a brand new, bright green DW linked carbon wunderbike, sucked up the babyhead rocks at speed on the fast descents, and crushed them all when the trail got tight and twisty. Then, at the end, I won the match sprint battle to the pavement finish line. Now all that to say, that much of this ride was at race level effort/conditions. And the faster I pushed the bike, the better it liked it. The slower I went, the less I liked it. No cruiser, this one. ”Pedal fast or don’t bother me”. But when I was pushing hard, it brought out the best in the bike. And if you are really focused on that kind of performance, then that may be a tradeoff you are more than willing to agree to.
So the Marathon will get ridden a bunch more. I have been trail riding it too and I have a long semi-epic ride planned soon that will NOT be at a race pace and then we may even let it go real XC racing for a bit. We shall see. Meanwhile, I think I have this one pretty well pegged so stay tuned.
Note: Specialized Bikes sent the Epic Marathon for test and review at no charge to Twenty Nine Inches. We are not being bribed, nor paid to do this review. We will strive to give our honest thoughts and opinions throughout.











GG, you say “No” to Strava. I wonder why? Ar your reasons worth a “soapbox” column? I think we’d all like to hear what you have to say on the subject.
@Tony…well, my thoughts on that here.
http://vintageone.blogspot.com/2012/11/oblivious-and-loving-it.html
Somewhat tongue in cheek, but….I do not even get into the Strava-zation of our local trails…smoothing out the line, rudeness to other users, etc. You need to excuse me now. I just had a cup of coffee and I need to tweet that to the world.
gg
I also have noticed how much racier the tune is on the brain for 13. I may have mine retuned to be more like the 11-12 if I cannot get it dialed for my style. As far as the fork is concerned I have generally just left it pretty much open as the brain platform still allowed for a good platforrm st the lower settings.
@Chased…interesting. We came to different conclusions on the fork though.
gg
That is interesting. I have ridden a few versions of the brain fork with the least
enjoyable being the 2010 future shock on a 26 inch sworks epic and the best being
the 12 sworks 29 fork. I found the lack of dive even in the softer settings to be ideal.
Oddly like the Reba on the 2010 marathon the best if them all even with its lack of brain.
@Chased…I have been running the Brain fork 4 clicks in, so that is one click from full ‘on’. I agree that the resistance to brake dive is pretty cool, but I can get that with the Low Speed Compression on the RCT3 SID. However, very different personality between the two. The Brain fork takes some getting used to.
However, I decided to go aggressive on the fork settings. It balances out well with the rear although it required me to wade a bit deeper into the pool of commitment as far as that racy feel to the bike. I think it was the right move though. More on that in depth when we wrap up things.
gg
Thanks for the article. I’ve been following with interest and would like share my thoughts on some of the spec.
Two things:
1) 680mm bars on a XC bike are considered narrow? When did that happen? Maybe there aren’t any trees on your trails (doesn’t appear that way in the pics), so you can run 800mm bars as standard? At 6’2, and wider than average shoulders, I’d say 680mm is not narrow at all. When I picked up my 2013 stumpy HT marathon, it came with the same bars, and I realized how much I liked what I’d class as “wide” bars (coming from 630mm on my Jet9). Still have plenty of friends running 580mm bars, but can’t stand em at that width. 580mm is narrow. 680mm is average at smallest.
2) The Brain fork – Also have this same fork on my Stumpy Marathon. I almost always run it at wide open (brain off), and it’s still has too much low speed compression damping for my taste. Efficient? Yes. Comfortable compared to my 2009 Fox RLC 29 on my Jet? Not even close. I’ll use the brain on short track and CX races, but would have been much happier with a standard fork for trail riding. Not sure it gives me anything the lockout setting w/ threshhold adjust on my Fox fork does not, and from talking with other buddies using the Sid brain, it seems these are more prone to mechanical issues. It is super stout/stiff and allows for surgical precision when carving a line through the woods, but a bit more comfort/shock absorption sure would be nice. Another thing I noticed, while in the first few “brain on” settings – the brain tends to disengage while standing and climbing, and bobs at least as much as my standard oldschool Fox fork (and more than the 10mm mentioned in the article). This is annoying as I thought keeping a stiff platform was the purpose of the brain. To get it to stay locked, I need to keep it in one of the three stiffest settings. Love my Stumpy, but would like it even better with a standard fork.
@JD…yeah, 720mm bars are the norm and I run 740mm bars on one bike. 680mm is narrow to me. Trees? Trees…oh yeah. We have those. Oak trees 6 feet in diameter and 100′ apart! 580mm? Welcome to 1990!
Yeah, the Brain fork on this bike is a pretty poor trail bike fork IMO. But the Epic Marathon, by my definition, is not a trail bike.
gg
I’ve been on my 2013 Marathon for a month now and love it. I’m coming from an 08 Stumpy SWorks, so in comparison, the Marathon is rocket.
The 29″ wheels are super stiff and complement the stiffness for the frame quite well. This bike loves to climb. And descends equally well for the type of bike it is.
Everyone’s definition of what a trail bike is, vary quite a bit. But personally, I would say the Marathon does fill the XC to the upper end of the light weight Tail category quite well. I ride everything I used to ride with my SWorks Stumpjumper, but only faster now.
GG-just out of curiosity How tall are you and what size are you riding. I’m 6’2″ and have always ridden a large but find myself feeling like my 2013 large has shrunk for some odd reason and since you have ridden a 2012 as well I would like to know if you are experiencing the same thing.
@Billq…I am 6’2″ with long arms. The Specialized XLs fit me very well. This 2013 feels comparable to previous XLs but the stocker stem was a reach for me (110mm).
gg
I just have to say… I agree with the notion of “go fast or leave me alone” for this bike… That is from a catagory that includes some of the most unforgiving bone rattling xc race steeds out there eg spesh’s stumpy HT
People still complain the epic isn’t an all round trail bike… There’s stumpy fsr or camber for that :/ epics are race thoroughbreds just like the stumpy ht. as far as trail riding though I’d say its as fast or comfortable as you tune it. Roll the brain fork off to 13 clicks (or half way depending on year sorry) from firm and 3-4 on the back. Makes it plush as ought.
Racing or racing mates on techy stuff then the most forgiving “race” settings in the manual are mint
I use the trail riding settings on the forks and race settings on the shock, thats just how it’s gone after a few fiddles and its really still well balanced.
Congrats anyone who has any epic or stumpy ht tho they’re just gorgeous. The simpler spesh puts the paint the sleeker the bikes are looking all the time!
I really enjoy your reviews! Can’t wait for the wrap-up/part 3 re Marathon – coming soon? Best, Joe