Ride Impression: 2013 Specialized Camber Comp 29″er- by Grannygear
At the 2013 Specialized Global Press launch at Snowbird Resort in the mountains of Utah, we were able to grab quick rides on a pretty good variety of new scoots and wring them out a bit. The trails there were pretty limited and I cannot imagine what someone riding a Demo 8 would have done, but for a Trail/XC bike it was short but better than nothing.
First off the launching pad was a 2013 Specialized Camber Comp 29″er. The Camber was relatively new to the line-up when we reviewed one here, here, and here and found it to be a very good all-rounder and an excellent example of the week-end warrior’s one-bike 29″er solution. With 110mm of travel front and rear, it is a momma bear number between the typical 100mm XC bikes and the newer 120mm/130mm XC/Trail bikes that are popping up all over.
For 2013 the travel remains at 110mm. I am a bit surprised as I did anticipate a jump to 120mm if for no other reason than to be more in line with the marketplace. Would it make it a ‘better’ bike? Dunno’…maybe not, but until something happens to get the FSR longer legs or there is a bigger travel 29″er from the big S, then 110mm will likely be the stopping point. 2014 will be interesting. As a side note, I have run a 120mm fork on our long term Camber and the gain was 20mm in AC height. I liked it that way and I would run it at 120mm all the time, but that may be a warranty issue for the general public. Better check ahead before you trespass.
So what did change for 2013, besides the fact that there are no more 26″ Cambers in the line-up, was a new M5 level alloy frame and a revised rear shock/link pivot, now with concentric link, that provides a stiffer frame. Stand over was increased and the smallest frame size has a fork crown stop built into the down tube to arrest the fork, keeping it from rotating into the frame and activating your frame warranty! A PF30BB, 142+ rear hub spacing, FSR rear suspension of course, and now there is Auto Sag on both Fox and Rockshox equipped rear air shocks. Fox forks lowers accept the OS28 front axle interface, but even if it is stiff and such, I think it is time to move on to a more standard QR15 front fork/axle, especially for the ease of upgrades for consumers. The Ground Control tire is now in a 2.3″ version and that is spec’d on the front with a 2.1″ GC on the back. Dropper posts are on some models, but not the Comp although the cable routing is there.
The Comp I rode had a SRAM X7/X9 combo with a SRAM custom for Specialized crank turning a 22/36 2×10 system. Brakes are custom Avid Elixir 3R with semi-metallic pads and a 180mm front on SM/MED and 200mm front on LG/XL…rear rotor size follows with either a 160mm or 180mm depending on frame size. The fork is a Reba RL 29 and the rear shock is a Monarch RL with Autosag and a lock out position.
On trail it had a familiar feel compared to the Camber we have. Cambers pedal well but need the platform shock to do it and I pointed it up a steep fire road for a mile or so just to see if anything stood out. I felt that the handle bar was too high, something I noticed on the test Camber. Spacer or bar swapping will take care of that as this bar has a 10* rise.
Over the course of the single track return, a windy, dusty and rock spattered ribbon diving though the forest, the Camber reminded me why it is the bike I most often grab if I am out for a trail ride with a group, especially if the terrain will be varied and uncertain. It goes up well enough and with killer wheels on there it can really come alive. I missed the Command Post dropper post on this model but that can be added. It really compliments this kind of bike in general. The Ground Control tires are quite decent all-rounders, but they are not near the trail bike tire that a Purgatory is, so I would pull the front and swap that over, at least if the soil is loose and rocky. On the rear the Ground Control is OK.
A Camber is right in between some of the 100mm XC 29″ers that can feel a bit racy and the nearly point and shoot of an FSR or something slightly burlier like a Yeti SB95 or a Niner RIP9. Did I notice the newer stiffer chassis? No, I cannot say that I did but keep in mind that these are snapshot rides and hardly a real test of anything. But if they say it is, then it likely is, and I would have to ride them back to back between old and new to really sort that out. The old Camber was hardly a noodle.
The Camber is an important bike for Specialized and now is 29″er only…no little wheeled Cambers. It is more refined for 2013 and likely will make a lot of riders happy for some time to come.
Next up is an S Works FSR. What happens when you mix together carbon, 130mm of travel, and remove a lot of grams before you hit the ‘blend’ button? Fun times, that’s what.
















” It is more refined for 2013 ”
But is it really better, or just a model change because of the change in year?
@Yogi, well the alloy frame is an M5 level now and all of them get the concentric link/pivot and that is lab tested to be stiffer. Also Autosag on Fox and RS rear shocks. Those are improvements.
Besides that, it marches on, perhaps with a new parts spec, etc.
Your call on how much that matters.
gg
Thanks for the write-up. I’m going to demo a 2012 comp the next week or so. Assuming I like it I’m trying to decide if it’s worth waiting for the 2013 or try to get a deal on the 2012 model.
RE fork travel: Per Specialized you can up the travel of your fork 10% of rear wheel travel and still be within warranty. So yes, anyone could go to a 120mm fork without warranty issues.
@Slim…great info!
gg
Grannygear,
I am tall, 6′-5″, and tried the 2012 Camber comp 29er xxl yesterday and really liked it. It had a fox triad back shock and fox front fork.
The Camber 29 comes with Rockshox and the camber 29 comp comes with fox as of 2012. Are you saying that the comp will now come with rockshox only?
I had a fox triad on my 2007 stumpjumper and was really happy with it but am unsure about the rockshox version.
If the 2013 is rockshox for the camber comp, would you recommend getting the next higher model with fox?
Thanks for your help. I want to put a down payment on one of these and am likely to get the 2012 with the fox.
Michael
@Michaeltb…yes, the 2013 Comp is Rockshox F/R with Autosag. I have no particular love for Fox forks and I have not been able to back to back Fox vs. RS rear shocks so I have no real info there for ya.
gg
What size is the test?
@Gerard…XL.
gg
The travel stays at 110mm as Specialized say they don’t want to confuse riders by blurring the boundaries between the Camber and the longer-travel StumpJumper.
grannygear,
i live in Seattle Wa. and most of the trail here are slightly technical or really technical, i hardly see a cross country trail. i would like to know how are the 29er performs.
@Drtyhrry…I do not know that answer for YOU for sure, you need to try a 29er to see for yourself, and I have never ridden in that area, but the Camber is much more than a mellow XC bike.
gg
In your article you state “Cambers pedal well but need the platform shock to do it.” Are you referencing Pro Pedal, which the Monarch-equiped Comp does not have? Simply lockout? I am really interested in the Comp as it is right at the upper end of my budget but seems to be well-equipped. Just wondering if the rear shock could be a potential issue/required upgrade that knocks it out of “good deal for the spec” range.
@Scott: Excuse me for butting in, but I thought I might have some pertinent info regarding your question. I have a 2013 Camber Comp on test now for TNI. You are correct in that the Comp does not feature a Fox with ProPedal. (Grannygear tends to call all platform shock settings “ProPedal”, so that may be a point of confusion here.
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However; through my contact at Specialized, I have learned that even though the Monarch RL on the Comp is marked with a “Lockout” position, it is not a true “lockout”. Specialized had the damper tuned so that position on the Monarch mimicked a “platform” setting, and it does not truly lockout the damper at all.
It is a bit confusing, since the markings on the damper indicate an “Open” position and a “Lockout” position.
So, in Grannygear-speak, the “Lockout” position is the “Pro Pedal” position on this bike.
I tend to stay seated if the bike is a more active/supple design, and this is a good description of the Camber Comp’s feel. The “Lock Out” position does firm the feel up somewhat, but overall, the Camber Comp falls into the “Plush” category more so than the “Firm” category. If you like your suspension tuned to a more stiff, snappy feel, ride out of the saddle and sprint a lot, or just don’t like rider induced suspension activity at all, then this bike may not be your cup of tea.
@Scott…what GT said! Sorry for the generic Propedal comment. I can see how that was confusing.
gg
Wow, thanks guys – very quick on the keyboards there! I’m a roadie just getting into MTB and killed myself a few weeks ago on my very old rigid 26er her in mid-state Tennessee. I spent most of the time out of the saddle but that was because of the pounding from all the roots and rocks (and occassionally hugging a tree at high speed). Believe I would prefer the “plush” feel – I’m not looking to race. Also not looking to spend $3K or more, so comparing this to a D package Tallboy the Camber wins on all counts except the rear shock. Given your comments, that may not even be the case and the Camber would be the clear choice.
So, picked one of these up over the weekend. Rained almost non-stop, but got a little chance to bump around on it. The “closed/locked” position on the RL is definitely platform and not a true lockout. Works very well. Really seems to be an excellent bike and hits more points than most at the price point. Very pleased
Is that rockshox reba qr15 or 9mm quick release? Website says “standard” but it looks like a maxle.
@Kenton: That’s Specialized’s OS-28mm end cap/9mmQR system that they say is as stiff as a 15mmQR