Editor’s Note: This report is filed by our European correspondent, “c_g”, and is an introduction to the “test mule” for his upcoming carbon fork testing where he will review several carbon forks on the same frame. Their will also be an independent look at this frame as well.
On-One Carbon RACE 29″er: ON TEST:
(or intro to: “It is all about Carbon”) by “c_g”
They have arrived: The On-One Carbon Race frame and Carbon Rigid fork.
This frame that I had ridden only a few weeks ago in a nude carbon pre-production version (and that by some of you had been dubbed “vapor ware”) now has arrived in production stage to serve me as a long term testing platform. This bike is a paint sample, meaning graphics and color might get some refinement before going into regular production. The red painted panels are of a dark metallic red that looks really nice in nature but doesn´t photograph well – so once again the pictures will only tell half the story.
I had been looking for some time for a Carbon platform to ride various rigid carbon forks on (some of which have been introduced already) and this frame seemed like a suitable candidate. From the short time on the On-One Carbon RACE 29″er in suspended mode (see short ride review here) during my visit with On-One in GB, I was confident this bike would handle all the different forks on test well, while being stiff and direct enough to reveal any ride characteristic of the forks willingly.
Certainly the frame will also be subjected to being reviewed separately but on the basis of this long term test and the different set-ups, so expect to find comments and remarks throughout the testing series and a independent conclusion.
Should be interesting, don´t you agree?
For some initial information on the Carbon RACE 29er frame see here.
Here is some more: I received the frame with the On-One Mixer (tapered) headset already installed and it came in at 1340 g. Deduct the claimed weight 209 g for the headset and you end up with a frame weight of ~ 1130 g for a frame size 18” – not bad, isn´t it?
Another thing that stuck out to me besides the twin direct mount posts, was the trick manipulating of the right chain stays. A bit like stair stepping of the high profile, sculptured to fit the chain rings and ensure maximum clearance for both tire and chain rings.
All the other details like the strongly sculptured tube shapes, the super massive head tube and bottom bracket junctions, the post mount brake bosses inside the stays, the 31.6 mm seat post diameter, tapered head tube, internal shifter cable routing, price, and availability… have all been mentioned already in above linked report. 
This time I will also have a good go on the also new On-One Full-Carbon rigid fork, that was only for me to be inspected then.
There has been some discussion regarding its 450 axle to crown length and 38 mm offset , the near vertical drop outs, and more …. and now it is my turn to find out. Oh yes the production sample weighed exactly 580 g (with uncut 300 mm tapered steerer tube) – almost identical to all the other rigid forks on test.
I am looking forward to riding this fork a great deal, being the only other monocoque carbon, besides the NINER Carbon fork (intro here) that is mine to test (others might follow).
And by this I am not only referring to the handling itself but the general characteristics because one thing I have certainly learned with rigid forks: They vary a great deal in stiffness, steering precision, brake induced chatter or deflection, trail chatter/small and big bump damping, … all of which make the fork perform better or worse under specific riding conditions and speeds. The question I will be asking myself (and hope to answer by spring 2011) is the following:
Is there one new generation rigid Carbon fork that finds the best compromise overall?
I have also learned that one and the same rigid fork may show completely different characteristics on different frames – the reason why I wanted to wait with the comparisons until I had an adequate frame for long term review to ride all forks on one single frame.
RIDE ON,
c_g
Ps: For the informed reader it will come as no surprise that there will be a theme with this test series (besides reviewing rigid Carbon forks) and this time it is going to be:
“It´s all about Carbon”
(… so expect some really cool Carbon components to find their place on this bike in the course of the test. Stay tuned
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that frame is absolutely stunning.
I’ll second that! If it looks this good and “doesn´t photograph well” as c_g said, I’d love to see one in the flesh
Is this a production bike or not? If not, it’s still vaporware. But I am really looking forward to what you have to say nonetheless. Even more so if the design is now frozen and you have that version.
Hey On-One crew: paint it however you want, I’ll buy one if it’s pink, but that 29er logo is total crap.
Looks good (would be better with 27.2 seat post, though ) !!
But…
I just read somewhere that carbon fiber is non-recyclable. If that’s true, I see a huge problem emerging in the future.
“Castor
…I just read somewhere that carbon fiber is non-recyclable. If that’s true, I see a huge problem emerging in the future.”
It’s infinitely repairable. Slap a patch on and it can be stronger than original.
c_g-You lucky dog!!!! Please keep the wheel set and tires the same to just evaluate the forks. Have fun.
What is the deal with that headseat? Do you know why they chose an external type?
@Castor: Actually, there are a few facilities where carbon fiber is being recycled. In the trade paper circulated here in North America, called “Bicycle Retailer and Industry News”, there was a feature article this past summer about one such facility being developed here in the U.S.
While it is true that most carbon fiber discarded today is not recycled, it is hopeful that this will change in light of these facilities and with more information to end users about this possibility.
That’s a sexy looking frame, I hope it rides as good as it looks!
Whats retail on the frame and fork?
D: My info is that it is a production frame.
Castor: I wil go with the 31.6 diamter post to statr out but reserve the option to trty out a 27.2 with shim as well.
Yogi: Yepp
. I will do my best to keep varaibles as low as possible, no question
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JeroenK: It relly is no ne development, only the tapered headset existing in the Carbon 456 adapted to the new frame. Why they chose this one from the start? I will let you know if I find out. Technically it is as good as the integrated system.
DD: Go to my visit reports about more details on the frame linked above. Target pricing was around GBP 799.- on the frame and in the range of GBP 249.- to 309.- for the fork.
Wow! $1250
I cant wait to hear your impressions, especially with the fork. The Niner Carbon Fork rocks, I’m interested to hear how this one stacks up!
DD: Currently we are buried in snow, so there needs to be a serious change in trail conditions before I will be able to provide any first impressions.
Alternatively you can read my impressions on the bikefrom a few eeks ago.
C_g you are welcome to ship the frame and fork down to OZ where our summer is approaching slowly through the endless and uncharateristic rain..
I must withdraw my earlier remark that the frame is hideous. It looks quite smart with the current paint scheme although the 29 logo is daft.
Looks like a current generation roadie more than an mtb – especially with the 3T finishing kit – and at that weight would make a terrific all road machine.
Your comment re forks and how they perform differently in different frames – must agree. Niner carbon fork feels altogether different in a steel SIR to a carbon Alma and its not just the geometry but the spring and braking flex
Thanks c_g.
I’d like to see you do a review of this frame with the “old” On-One carbon leg fork, that many of us own, with a reducer headset.
D. This is a production frame. At On-One we operate in a very open design environment. You get to see most of your frames, forks and other parts from concept stage clear through to final production. This means it may be a year from start to finish. The computer model of this frame was shown last last January http://www.on-one.co.uk/news/products/q/date/2010/01/27/carbon-29er-sneak-preview . First prototypes around June, followed by testing and tweaking. Many companies will not let you see anything before the pre-production samples.
And we will be happy to use pink graphics on yours!
You can use a straight 1-1/8″ steerer fork with the Mixer headset simply by using the reducer crown race (not seeing it on our site ATM, but we have them).
-shiggy
On-One Voice in America
I know I can use a reducer. Take a picture of the set up for us and post it on your open-design-environment website. There are a lot of us with that fork, which we will probably use for a while.
And thanks for talking down to me, I am fully aware of every bit of “news” you have released over the past year. But never once has anyone said, “This is the final design, the design is frozen.” So I asked, and I guess we can now consider that officially answered. Now actual ride reports will mean something.
D. I had no intension to talk do to you. Just to provide information, and I did make a mistake. The Mixer headset ships with the 1-1/8″ fork crown race for using straight steer tube forks in our tapered head tube frames. A simple solution for using your existing fork.
If you want to use a tapered steerer fork, then you just need the new crown race. No need for a whole new headset.
Our development process is open and we have fun with it, but it can be confusing. If you have any questions or input about a frame, fork, or any other component use the comment section (bottom of each page) and you will get an answer.
I am looking forward to c_g’s ride reports, too. Including all the various forks.
Hey sweet ride, I am on the market for something all carbon and have been looking at Niner for some time now. I guess I need to wait and see how this pans out.
By the way, I come to On One as a Titus bike owner and fan, may I ask if this will be one of the first On One/Titus designs for 2011 or 2012? I only ask since it was answered by:
-shiggy
On-One Voice in America
Thanks and look forward to becoming an On One fan as well.
By the way any demo bikes anywhere in Northern California?
Serge
Serge-
We are looking Feb 2011 for the Carbon 29er Race (the frame above). It will remain an On-One model. You can find more info here: http://on-one.co.uk/news/products/q/date/2010/11/12/twentynine-inches-report
Our intention is to keep On-One and Titus as separate and complimentary brands.
No demo bikes yet. Still setting up shop Stateside. Thanks for considering On-One.
-shiggy, On-One and Titus Voice in America
louie spence is meant to be getting one
Frames are now available to pre-order for only £699 at http://www.on-one.co.uk. We have 20 18 inch frames arriving end of January.