Thanks for joining us for Day Two’s coverage of Interbike’s Outdoor Demo. We will continue with an overview of the show with more detailed reports to come later.
Interbike Outdoor Demo Day #2 by Guitar Ted
Going back into the dust and wind of Bootleg Canyon for another dose of 29″er goodness. This is what we found and rode on Day #2…….

Fuji Outland 29: Fuji has made an Outland 29 FS before, but they were rare and had to find. This time around Fuji is set to change all that. This isn’t a big travel, especially light, or earth shattering rig in terms of technology, but I found it to be a competent rig. Look for a full ride report to come.

Rocky Mountain Vertex: Rocky Mountain folks told me this bike was a “home run” for them in 2010 and they expect it will continue to sell well in 2011. This is the 2011 version and for the suggested retail just south of $1300.00, it’s hard to argue with that statement. This bike rides quite nicely with a neutral handling, solid feeling front end and yes, your “typical” aluminum rear end feel.

Turner Sultan: The Turner Sultan has been tweaked slightly and now comes in anodized colors. They went over the bike in great detail with us and some of the details will make the Sultan more of a “trail” bike and less “XC”. Here are a few of those details……..
The head tube is the newer 44mm type which allows you to run Cane Creek’s, (or some other companies.), 1.5″ external cup and inset 1 1/8th” upper cup, (as shown), or a straight 1 1/8th”steer tube with an inset type headset. This also allows you to tweak the head tube angle slightly. Turner told us it would amount to half a degree. The head tube angle is now relaxed to 69.5, which Turner believes will allow the bike to handle tougher trails and realize their design as a “trail” category rig.
The bottom bracket was also tweaked to be slightly lower. We also noted the reshaped brace at the seat tube/top tube junction. Turner designed the bike to use a 120mm fork, but we also learned that they fully expect that folks will be using the new 140mm Rock Shox on it as well. We are working on getting a test rig for a short review and hopefully will be using the Rock shox 140mm fork on it we also are testing. Stay tuned….

Scott 949: The Scott 949 was in attendance and was demoed throughout the day leaving us without a ride on his fine looking carbon rig. We learned every frame is guaranteed to weigh 949 grams or less, with every frame having its weight marked under the bottom bracket. That’s pretty bold.
Cool details abound on this wunder-frame. The brake mount, the rear drop outs, and the massive Press Fit 30 bottom bracket junction which should make this bike a very efficient ride.
The bike was a hit from all accounts and we expect that this and the lower priced carbon frame from Scott will be seen on the XC circuit all across North America.

SR Suntour “Epicon” 29″ Fork: SR Suntour, who will have a North American headquarters and distribution, are offering a line of aftermarket suspension fork products including this 29″er fork. This fork, dubbed the “Epicon”, will be available in 100 and 80mm versions with a 15QR axle.
The fork, which features a magnesium lower and taper wall aluminum stanchions felt reasonably light in the hand. It has a unique self contained cartridge damper system that can be easily removed and replaced if need be. For folks that like tuning forks, we were told that a circlip is inside the damper cartridge that can be moved incrementally into successive slots to realize travel from 100 to 90mm, 85mm, and so on.
The trick 15QR through axle releases by flipping the quick release type lever on one end, and then by pinching back a collar, much like an air chuck on an air tool, which allows the through axle to pass through the hub and fork to free the wheel. One caveat: This won’t work unless the bore is 15mm all the way through the hub. Hubs that only have the 15mm end caps with an open internal area will cause a bit of a problem.
In other fork news we discovered that RST is coming back to North America with a presence and a new, updated M-29 fork. They didn’t have any solid details, but were promising lower weight, better performance, and even a lower price than the original RST M-29, which we liked pretty well. Look for a possible test to develope between these two forks in the future.


Haro Bikes: The Haro 29″ers are back without the single speed Mary anymore and a redesigned aluminum hard tail with some swoopy aluminum tubes. Both these bikes had great rear tire clearances and looked pretty sharp.


KHS Bikes: KHS Bikes was showing these two rigs, but I didn’t see anything test rideable, since they were small sizes. The Yuma looked to have an aluminum frame and was a basic hard tail while the Prescott was a unique purplish-maroon full suspension design. We will see if we can track down some more info indoors at Interbike. By the way, the 650B bike is still be shown in the line up as well.

SE Bikes showed the “Big Ripper” with linear pull brakes and a BMX inspired look.

One More FatBack: Greg Matyas of Speedway Cycles was pushing around this swoopy, cruiser inspired fat bike that belongs to Dave Zabriskie. Yes……..that roadie guy! Apparently he’s a bit busy at the moment and allowed Greg to show off this fancy rig made of titanium.

And Speaking Of The Road….. This Raleigh International was too sweet not to ride. Hey…..road bikes can be pretty cool too!

Norco’s Shinobi was briefly seen in the Norco tent. This is their long travel rig and looks pretty refined since the prototype was shown earlier in April.

Cruising In Style: And we leave Outdoor Demo in Bootleg Canyon for the last time. Santa Cruz does it on this cool, rail road inspired vintage bus! See ya indoors with more reports, coming your way soon!








GT AND GRANNYGEAR:
I’d like to know what you think of the Epic 29er as an all around every day bike on the rocky AZ trails. Under 200lb rider in full gear that lives for the climb and doesn’t do big air or super fast gnarly downhill. Thanks!
@Leftyjunkie
I think, given your stated parameters, that you would be well within the boundaries of that bike, especially with the 2011s at 100mms of travel F/R.
grannygear
Lefty – search. They’ve already reviewed an Epic.
Guys, This is a great service you’re doing for all us never-to-be-attendees. Looking forward to next report. Here’s a question I’d love to get answered from the show:
Top three 29ers for serious technical riding (not huge drops mind you), but for steep, big, endo-inducing rock faces up and down?
@ chuckej
I love my DW Sultan for those conditions. The DW suspension design allows you to pedal w/o feedback in rough terrain and gives the feeling of floating over it.
I can think of a few others that would fit the bill due to allowing the use of a 140mm fork – Tracer 29, RIP9, Behemoth, Tallboy and maybe the Rumblefish and Stumpjumper.
I hope to throw my legs over a few of these bikes next week and see how they compare to the Sultan.
Hoping we will see some more ride reports – Sawyer belted, new SFHT, etc.
Don’t forget the Ellsworth Evolution…the Evolve is a good trail bike, plush suspension, efficient pedaling (not quite as good as the DW Sultan), lighter than the Sultan, etc. The added 20mm of travel should make for a very fun ride. IMO, it could be added to the list SS offered…
@SS – Thanks for that. Just tried a Sultan for a short stint in Fruita – liked it – but still a bit “straight up” for me. Also, tried the Pivot 429 – which seemed a bit more capable in the down and was pretty darn nice. The Stump specs look good and a serious riding friend swears by his…interested if any changes there. I’m starting to think that Stump is the affordable solution.
It’s interesting that you would find the Sultan less capable for “down” when it has more travel, slacker angles and a slightly longer wheelbase. FWIW…Pivot intended use only allows for up to a 120mm fork (unless there is something new at interbike).
Hard to compare price on the big box bikes to the more boutique types.
@ Deuce9er – Hope to maybe ride that Ellsworth too. Hope is is might better than the last version.
Hey GT, GG
Anything else from Salsa or are you under wraps not to say just yet? Salsa made it seem as though something longer travel than the spearfish will be at Interbike . I was expecting/ hoping for a 120mm+ full suspension 29er.
Love to know more if there is anything to tell.
Thanks guys for the coverage updates!
Bigger Mama!!!
Day 1 Coverage: by GT “By the way, we were emphatically told in no uncertain terms that this is not the replacement for the Big Mama. The Big Mama is being re-designed and will be “bigger”. (That’s all we could get “officially”
)”
Thank you grannygear! The 2011 Epic 29 is the one I’m after.
Thanks Deuce9er.
I just don’t want to wait until next spring/ summer. Salsa has done so well with the handling and stiffness of the Mama I am tempted to wait. I soo want them to make a true horst link, VPP or DW link for the Bigger Mama. I totally think they could have a category winner on their hands if they did.
I to would love a Bigger Mama and perhaps a spearfish on the side
Any info on the Intense Spider 229 (80/80mm? 100/80mm? 100/100mm? Adjustable Rear Travel?)? Lots of talk about the Spearfish…I would think the 229 would be in a similar category (higher priced, obviously), but give the short travel FS 29er followers another bike to oogle over…
The Fuji looks good, looking forward to the ride review and to see how you feel it compares to the Spearfish.
@chuckej
Hmmm…I would say, Intense Tracer, Turner Sultan, Speshy FSR. Niner was not at the demo, but you could toss a WFO or RIP in there (with a 140mm Reba to slack it out a bit).
I rode the Tracer at 5.5″ of travel setting. Super confident feeling. More on that later, pics, etc. The Sultan has a slacker HT angle and would welcome a 140mm fork. I think that would give it a 69* HT angle IIRC. It is 69.5* with a 120 Fox (standard). They would spec it with a bigger Fox if they made one. Apparently they are obligated to use Fox stuff on complete bikes. The FSR is definitely the budget version and makes a great long legged XC/trail bike-moderate AM ride.
The Sultan is slacked out for this year, has a new anodized finish…looked great…and a 44mm HT for adaptability. We are expecting to get on one for a test session later this year.
Re the new Bigger Mama…hang on…it is coming. You just know it is, but when and what it will be is not to be revealed. Hee hee. Salsa rocked it at the show for 29ers IMO…the Ti Fargo, Ti Selma, etc. Made most everyone else look like they were adjusting decals for their 29er ‘innovation’ in 2011.
grannygear
thanks for the coverage guys! keep up the good work!
you guys are a monumental asset to the 29er community.