Editor’s Note: This will wrap up our reporting on the recent Specialized Dealer Camp/Press Camp that Grannygear attended in Colorado. Here he has some final tidbits to share on what is coming from Specialized for big wheel fans in 2011.
Press Camp Wrap Up: by Grannygear
As a wrap-up of the Dealer Event, I wanted to toss up some pics and details that are worth mentioning.
Here is a shot of the adjustable drop-outs on the S Works carbon 29er singlespeed frame. I have to admit that carbon is slowly winning me over as companies like Specialized, Santa Cruz, and others begin to offer a reliable and high performance composite frame. Still pricey, but getting awfully good.
The refinements in the brake, Mini-Brain, and 142+ rear axle is shown in the rear end of this aluminum Epic. Also, notice that the pivot at the dropout has been moved up compared to last year’s Epics.
In this pic you can see a normal rear hub and a 142+ rear hub. Notice the extra width in the spoke flange area of the hub. More triangulation is a good thing.
The Stumpjumper 29er Evo is the Rat Rod of 29er hardtails. Black, 1×10, clean looking…it was my favorite looking bike of the week. I am not sure what to think about the Evo approach. I like the creativity and it gives buyers a choice of a bike that is ‘modded’ from the factory without losing any warranty benefits. Will it sell? I dunno’, but I do wonder if the person who is likely to mod their bike may be just as likely to want to do it ‘their way’. In any case, this bike was cool looking and I wanted to take it home. Can you imagine this in carbon? Wow. $2,050.00 brings it home.
The e thirteen chain guide and short cage XO rear der keep things tidy and check out the cable routing under the top tube.
Check out this new way of getting the number of handlebar mounted levers under control. This one is a control for the Command Post and is built into the grip clamp. Cool idea.
Finally, the Rockhopper line offers the buyer a solid bike that is trail capable at a lesser cost then the Stumpjumper line. This one is the Rockhopper SL LTD 29er. Good looking if you want a bolder look to a bike. It is not subtle, graphics wise, what with the matching Reba Recon fork and all. $1650.00 for all that glamour.
Twenty Nine Inches would like to thank Specialized Bicycles, Nic Sims, and all the great people at Specialized for providing this opportunity to check out the expanded offerings for 2011. Stay tuned for a review of the Rockhopper SL single speed and more 2011 product from Specialized coming soon.




















That Evo looks really bad-azz. Nice.
I also like the new SS dropouts. If they start putting that on other bikes (I can’t bring myself to ante up for carbon yet), I’d be jazzed.
Like a SS Stumpy Evo with those dropouts. Hello new frameset!
Yeah, an Evo ss would get me jazzed!
Nice work on covering the press camp. I got a chance to demo the FSR Expert and will own one as soon as my local shop gets one (the rep told me Sept. or Oct.)
The FSR Expert will be the first full squish bike I’ve own for 5 years and I’m as excited as a 50 year old man can be! The brain works.
Could you feel much difference in the rear-end feel with the new pivot location? I know your review said if felt firmer. I’m still a bit leery of a carbon MTB. I went to Spec’s customer support page and searched “Damaged Carbon Frames” and found a post from a customer who, on their 4th ride on their S-Works 26er sustained a rock strike on the down tube that produced a crack that I know I woldn’t want to keep riding on. Spec suggested their crash-replacment policy, which my dealer said isn’t that great. I think I will stick to Alu. I think the difference in weight would be 2lbs. or less. Now those Roval Carbon wheels are a different story…
@Bob. I am not sure that I noticed anything with the new pivot that I could hang a hat on…maybe it was there, but one ride down a mountain is just that…one ride.
I think the bike was stiffer from end to end, not really firmer. I imagine it is a combo of all the improvements.
Carbon and fragility is an odd thing. One person will attest to a rock strike of a simple fall over and then, *crack*. Then I listen to a couple of guys in warranty talk about how they had to destroy a not for sale frame and how many whacks it took to the carbon top tube with big wrenches to crack it.
I dunno.
At this point, I think it goes like this:
Steel is still the king of all around value and longevity, but it does not make that much sense in an FS IMO. Alu is the all around king of multiple applications and I would worry less about a dented alu frame then I would a cracked or heavily scratched carbon one. Ti is amazing but still costs a lot for a decent frame.
I am ready for a carbon frame, but I would be skeptical still. Old habits die hard.
grannygear
My thoughts, and maybe this is what Bob was saying too perhaps, is that it’s not so much the durability of the carbon frame but thte cost of replacing it if you do break it.
I just had the chain snap on my 09 S-works Roubaix SL2 and it took a hunk out of each of the chainstays. Not enough to damage it structurally (I hope, it really isn’t deep), but it made me rethink getting a carbon MTB frame. My dealer said typically for a $2900 MSRP frame like mine, a crash replacement would run around $1700. I’m hoping I don’t have to go that route! He did tell me to cover it immediately with clear nail polish, as the air degrades the carbon. I found some matching paint at Pep Boys (Toyota Dark Graphite).
I am rethinking my ownership of a carbon MTB frame. Scratches, chips, chunks off from the common stick in derriailer mean constant epoxy touch ups. Frame looks like a teenager after squeezing pimples… Bit like the carpet at the specialized press camp. Aaaargh. I can’t see the bikes for that lairy carpet!
The SJ EVO is very tempting. Any info on geometry, weight, gearing, wheels, availibilty? Any ride report?
FRAME
M5 manipulated alloy frame, 29” geometry, curved TT
FORK
RockShox Reba RLT 29, tapered alloy steerer, compression and rebound adj. LO w/external floodgate adj., standard drop-outs, 15.5: 80mm travel, others: 100mm travel
HEADSET
1-1/8” upper and lower campy style cartridge bearings for integrated alloy HT
STEM
Specialized XC, 3D forged alloy, 4-bolt, 31.8mm clamp, adjustable rise
HANDLEBARS
Specialized XC flat bar, 6061 butted alloy, 680mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 6 degree up, 31.8mm
GRIPS
Specialized lock-on, 15.5/17.5: Grappler, Other: Rocca
FRONT BRAKE
Custom Avid Elixir R SL, hydraulic disc, tool-less reach adjust, alloy backed semi-metallic pads, stainless hardware, G3 Clean Sweep rotor, 185mm rotor
REAR BRAKE
Custom Avid Elixir R SL, hydraulic disc, tool-less reach adjust, alloy backed semi-metallic pads, stainless hardware, G3 Clean Sweep rotor, 160mm rotor
BRAKE LEVERS
Custom Avid Elixir R SL hydraulic, tool-less reach adj.
FRONT DERAILLEUR
e* thirteen XCX chain guide, BB mounted
REAR DERAILLEUR
SRAM X.0, 10-speed, short cage
SHIFT LEVERS
SRAM X.7, 10-speed, aluminum trigger
CASSETTE
Shimano HG81, 10-speed, 11-36t
CHAIN
KMC X10, 10-speed, w/ reuseable Missing Link, nickel plates
CRANKSET
Custom SRAM S-1250, 7050 alloy arms, 33t single ring, GXP spindle, 15.5: 170mm, others: 175mm
BOTTOM BRACKET
SRAM GXP, outboard bearing
PEDALS
Resin Test Ride Pedals with toe clips, CEN std.
RIMS
Custom DT Swiss 520SL, 29” alloy disc, sleeved w/eyelets, 26mm wide, 32h
FRONT HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, laser-etched logo, OS 28 end caps, sealed cartridge bearing, RWS, 32h
REAR HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, laser-etched logo, double sealed cartridge bearing, QR, 32h
FRONT TIRE
S-Works Purgatory, 120 TPI, 2Bliss ready aramid bead, dual compound, 29×2.2”
REAR TIRE
S-Works “The Captain”, 120 TPI, 2Bliss ready aramid bead, dual compound, 29×2.0”
SADDLE
Specialized BG Phenom Comp, hollow Cr-Mo rails, 143mm width
SEATPOST
2014 butted alloy, single bolt setback, 30.9mm, 15.5/17.5”: 350mm, others: 400mm
SEAT BINDER
34.9mm clamp ID, 7050 hard annodized alloy collar w/ QR, black
71.5/73.5 HT/ST No weights. No ride. No idea on availability. Check with your local dealer, etc.
grannygear
I had a gander at the 2011 spec dealer book today. They are offering an M5 Epic 29er frameset in two colors. Without fork but with rear hub. Also, the Roval carbon 29er wheels only had one part number and the description didn’t state whether the rear was 135 or 142. I have seen it reported that both would be available but it seems like there would be two part numbers. Front is QR or 15QR, both endcap sets included. No 20mm option this year.
I would love to have the Evo with those sliding dropouts, tapered headtube, and Roval carbon wheels (SS- specific of course) with QR-15 front/142 rear!!! I can just imagine that bike with along with a carbon Ragley bar and a Niner-style tapered rigid carbon fork installed…
Hardtails and lots of hardtails, I’m fed up with. How about some carbon 120mm full suspension with 12×142 or 12x150mm maxle on the rear and adjustable U-turn 90- 120mm Reba XX with 20mm maxle on the front? What do you think? FSR S-works short travel?
Ofcourse the 140mm version show turn up as well, right?
Hardtails are simpler, more reliable, lighter, cheaper, allow 2 water bottles,…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
So are unsuspended forks, FS are used on their terrain nontheless. Im my opinion the 29er market is over saturated with hardtails, SS etc. Not enough carbon FS and carbon FS 120-140mm travel range with rear maxles on the frames.
looky, looky http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=52834&eid=6055&menuItemId=14871