Drop Bars For Off Road: Why?
March 4th, 2010 by Guitar TedWith 29 inch bicycles on the market from Salsa Cycles and Singular Cycles that have been designed specifically for use with drop bars for off roading, there have been a lot of questions flying about the internet. With all of the questions I see, I thought it might be a good thing to cover the subject here on Twenty Nine Inches.
This is in no way an unabridged version of drop bar knowledge for off road bikes, but hopefully these posts will clear up a few things in regards to this odd set up that seems to be gaining more fans these days. With that let’s take a look at the “why” of drop bars for off road use.
The Beginnings: The drop bar can be traced backwards all the way through the 20th century to its roots in the late 19th century. Practically since the advent of the “safety” bicycle, some sort of curved, down turned, swept back bar has been employed by cyclists. Of course, two things were going on the accelerated the evolution of handle bar design: Rough roads and competition. Pavement was scarce in the early days and the competitive cyclist often found themselves traversing rough dirt and stone roads for hours at a time. This necessitated the use of a bar that would allow a rider to have a secure grip for the rougher hits and a bar that would allow some changes in grip positions without loss of control. The drop bar evolved to accommodate these needs. As roads became smoother, and courses not so long, the drop bar has further evolved to become something that fills other needs for the professional racers and drop bar design has morphed in response. The main feature of today’s drop bar is the accommodation to riders for a primary position on the hoods. The drop section being relegated to being used mostly to gain maximum aerodynamic advantages in sprints and windy stages of road events. This is a result of smooth roads and component “advancements” and is a far cry from what drop bars were originally intended for.
Where The Pavement Ends: Road racing has taken drop bar design in a radical direction from where it had been for many years. However; there still are many riders that don’t race on smooth pavement, but are traversing pot holed back roads and tracks with more “traditional” drop bars. These riders are still using drop bars for their original intentions, to secure a better grip in rougher conditions, to better use their upper body and arms as “shock absorbers”, and for multiple hand positions with a bit of an aero advantage thrown in for good measure. Early off road adventurers often used road bikes with drop bars before the advent of the modern mountain bike in the late 70’s. These off road drop bar “mountain bikers’ included folks like Tom Ritchey, and most notably for our discussion, Charlie Cunningham.
Charlie Cunningham took a very different path towards the mountain bike than most of the Marin group that had such a huge influence on later mountain biking. Charlie realized that drop bars were beneficial for several ergonomic and performance reasons, but ever the tinkerer, he saw a better way to design a bar for single track pursuits. This led him to modify old Cinelli road bars by giving them “flare” and “sweep” to allow for wrist and fore arm clearance while in the drops and to give better leverage in technical terrain. This ultimately led to full production bars by WTB, a company that Charlie helped found.
Other mountain bikers took notice and soon a drop bar craze hit mountain biking by the late 80’s. You can read an excellent article penned by Mike Varley from that time period here. In the article, Mike explains many of the benefits of using a drop bar off road which were derived from the early road racers through to the early pioneering mountain bikers who were adapting all sorts of technologies to this “new” sport of mountain biking. Set up tips are also laid out, many of the basics of which still apply to today’s drop bar set ups.
With the focus on weight and professional XC type racing in the early 90’s, drop bar mountain biking faded, and by the turn of the century had all but faded into obscurity. WTB had stopped making the off road “dirt drop”, and more extreme types of cycling off road such as “Free” riding and “all mountain biking” had captured the imagination of mountain bikers. However; something else was bubbling to the surface, that in my opinion, helped bring off road drop bars back in front of the eyes of many mountain bikers today. That was the rise of the 29″er.
Modern Off Road Drop Bars And 29″ers: I won’t try to explain “why” 29″er freaks have been so attracted to “alt” bars, but I do know that they have been and still are. In fact, there was a time when deriders of the big wheels would accuse fans of 29″ers of also being in with the “weird handle bar” group. At any rate, examples of WTB’s old off road drop bar design were fetching exorbitant prices in on-line auctions and several riders were scrambling after the beat up old examples of these whenever they turned up. This got the attention of Brant Richards, then of On One. He collaborated with well known off road drop bar user, Don Person, aka Shiggy, and developed the Midge Bar. This more than anything re-invigorated off road drop bar use and spawned the “copy-cat” bar, the Origin 8 “Gary Bar”. Off road drop bar experimentation was on!
When the Midge Bar came out, another student of off road drop bar use, Matt Chester, penned this review of the Midge Bar. If you read this review carefully, you will glean out several reasons why off road drop bar use is attractive to some riders, and you will see some set up cues as well. Matt also penned an article for the web-zine 63XC on the Midge, but in this piece Matt details out the historical use of drop bars and the “why” in more detail than I have here. (Recommended reading!) You’ll find much the same reasoning, only in a somewhat humorous web-exchange between a doubter and a fan of off road drops, on Shiggy’s drop bar page. There is also a great animated gif showing the multiple hand positions on tap for the off road drop bar user.
Re-cap: So we have seen a bit of the historical and modern influences on drop bar designs for off roading. We have some references for the physical and performance benefits. We also see where a connection to the modern 29″er came in and helped push off road drop bars back into the light of modern day mountain biking’s spotlight. While it remains a tiny corner of the mountain bike world as a whole, bicycles like the Salsa Cycles Fargo and the Singular Cycles Gryphon will no doubt push the popularity of off road drops even further along. I’ll keep on saying it: Off road drop bars are not for every one, but if you take the time to consider the claims, you just might find it may make sense for you.
Next: A closer look at set up and some drawbacks to using drops off road.














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Drop bars for 29ers or inveted riser bars called dropper bars?
What do you think of having riser bars up “side down”. They would enable the bars to be much lower especially on longer travel 29ers and S frames. Why nobody writes about them? What do you think GT? Will Race Face do thm in Carbon
Inverted stems and flat bars would be a stronger, stiffer, and lighter solution to get the bars low. That’s not what drop bars are about.
Running a standard riser bar upside down is a horibble idea – you’ll end up with forward sweep.
dman – if you meerly rotate the bar in the stem, it will have a forward sweep. If you take it out of the stem and flip it, the sweep will go backwards.
davidcopperfield – I have seen plenty of examples of your “dropper bar” concept around the internet. The “path racer” look is derived from a North Road handlebar flipped upside down. The Singular website has a picture of a Gryphon set up that way. It looks very cool and retro. I know people do that with Mary bars, Albotros bars, and old Wald cruiser bars too. I think its certainly a viable way to set up a bar if it puts hand position where you want it. But its a little outside the scope of this article here.
GT – great article! You really need to write a book on this stuff one of these days. Besides “offroad” drop bars, 29ers seem to have also rescued steel frames, rigid forks, and single-speed drivetrains from the big dustbin of bicycle history (not to mention fat tires on 700c rims). I wonder if its because riders who buck the “norm” in wheel size have a proclivity to buck the norm in other areas too. Or is it something about the 29er itself that it attracts other ideas that are so old, they’re new?
It’s wrong to think the use of dropbars in off road riding is a new thing.
For some of us, it’s a return to old knowledge. Long before “mountainbikes were invented riders in the UK (and presumably USA) were riding serious mountain tracks with drop bars on their road bikes. A fat tyre in those days was 38mm.
The flat bar evolved on mountainbikes because the stems of that time were pretty weak and unable to prevent rotation on drops etc as riders got keen to emulate MX bikes.
As far as 29er riders being more likely to use drops, that’s probably because we are more likely to be riding rigid.
A good place to look for historical use of drops is on the UK’s “Rough Stuff Fellowship” site – an association that was formed in the 1950s for people who liked to ride in the mountains -http://www.rsf.org.uk/
I have a set of my old bars from that era that I used for offroad (Dawes Concorde bars) and they are very similar to the new offroad bars in that they have flare to avoid wrist banging, but a bit narrower. They are nicely engraved too
You know, he’s right. The rough stuffers were doing everything on all sorts of kinds of bikes.
I remember how, wehn mtn bikes came along, there was considerable debate (and much grumbling) about the great expense and most importantly, all those gearss and stuff would di-incentivize (is htis a word?) the need to hop off and push up the bike (maybe this is why bicycles are called push-bikes in yr part of hte world?)…”How can anyone enjoy the view if they’re constantly shifting gears, nose on the bars, not looking around?”
I believe they had a good point.
So I take it back that I was the first pro mtn bike racer on drops
(even tho I was) because the roughty Toughty gang were years and years ahead of me –admittedlly not racing–on any old bike…lovingly maintained for a lifetime & more.
Too bad we can say THAT about modern mtn bikes, eh?
Ask me about hte book I am writing….
Don’t get me wrong. We’d never have considered doing on our drop bar bikes what you did.
The 26″ mountain bike and the cruel and unusual ways it was treated has benefitted us all
Now I can go for a ride on my fat tyred rigid 29er and not have to worry about folding my forks going over a 6″ drop. My old Flying Scot lives in the attic now – it still rides beautifully.
Nowt wrong with modern mountain bikes except some have funny little wheels. Modern suspension bikes are like computers – chuck them out every 3 years or so, but a modern rigid bikes will continue to be used for years. and gradually evolve to a state of singlespeediness.
So the alice b. toeclips claim to fame is secure. When’s the book out?
But maybe still the first drop bar pro with a rat onboard for sure! Jacquie rocked it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrL7U0IXIWY
Looking into some woodchippers for my Drakkar build and have a question regarding sizing. Do you base the width off road bars or mtb bars?
@sam, I would go with what you use for mtb for a width if you are going off road, otherwise stick to something closer to your road width, if possible. Woodchippers are pretty wide even in 42cm width!