Comments on: Top Ten 29″er Products: Whatever Happened To…..?

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:53:08 +0000

@Oderus: No- I think we agreed to disagree. I was at a shop and watched mechanics wrestle with a Rhythm wheel w/TLR strip and there was no way the first bead was even going on. This also corresponds with my experience.

Again, I can’t recommend it because a few people get it, because they are not meant to go with each other.

Glad you can get it to work.

By: Oderus

Oderus — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:03:33 +0000

@Gted, GEAX TNT tires DO fit Bontrager rims with the rim strips installed. We set these up all the time for customers. We had this discussion before and I thought that we narrowed it down to some of you folks not having any technique to mount a tire. We only stock the TNT tires at our shop and we set them up on Bonty rims all the times with Stans or Caffelatex. Don’t slam the tires because you didn’t eat your Wheaties!

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:33:57 +0000

@Oderus: I can not suggest that a TNT Saguaro will work tubeless with WTB rims since WTB doesn’t sell any 29 inch rims they condone for tubeless use. I also know that Geax Saguaro TNT tires won’t fit on a Bontrager rim with the TLR plastic rim strip installed.

I didn’t say that “ghetto solutions” could not be applied.

@ Shop Mechanic: You will notice that I specifically called out the Geax Saguaro TNT and UST type tires. I did not mention the foldable version.

By: Shop Mechanic

Shop Mechanic — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:33:34 +0000

I second Jeff’s comment on the Saguaro. I ran my standard ones tubeless and they worked great. No casing issues in sharp rocks either. That included a trip to Brianhead, UT where there are plenty of sharp rocks. One rock put a slice right down the center of a knob all the way to the casing but never punctured it. The tire was new at the time. I kept riding the tire until the tread wore out and it never punctured. Not bad. Now if they could just make the side knobs bigger…

By: Oderus

Oderus — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:28:39 +0000

@Seanman, only two of the Bontrager tires don’t come Tubless ready, the XR1 and the 29-0. Everything else is available TLR. As far as the the XR1 and 29-0, get the Expert version instead of the team and you can mount them on a tubeless Bont rim/strip combo just fine.

@Gted: What do you mean the Saguaro is really only compatible with UST rims? I’ve run it tubeless on the WTB Laserdisc (converted using Rhythm rim strips) and on a wide variety of Bontrager wheels and rims. None of these are UST rims. I have GEAX TNT tires on 2 out of 3 bikes (I only run tubeless) and I don’t use UST rims on either. The Saguaro is a solid tire and anyone that wants a dependable great riding tire to run tubeless should look at these. I don’t think that Stans No Tubes are the most popular tubeless rims by any stretch. If you take into account every bike that comes with either Bont. or WTB wheels, they far exceed what Stan’s is producing. I get that both rims require a rim strip or tape, but so do the Stan’s rims. Knocking a tire because of it’s fit with one rim manufacturer is pretty subjective.