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Top Ten 29″er Products: Whatever Happened To…..?

December 11th, 2009 by Guitar Ted

2009’s Top Ten 29″er Products list marks the third year of the listing of the best products I reviewed for that particular year. It was suggested to me that it might be fun to do a post on what the long term views of each of the products is now. Some of the products/bikes have moved on and some are still in use. Some have been passed by with newer, better technology, and some are becoming timeless classics.

So, let’s take a look at what holds up and what products I totally missed it on with a look at “Whatever Happened To……….

………..the 2007 Top Ten List!

First off, let’s have a look at the final list:

1. RST M-29 Suspension Fork

2. Bontrager’s Tubeless Ready System

3. Salsa Cycles Dos Niner

4. WTB Weir Wolf LT 29″er Tire

5. Willits Brand WOW Fork

6. Bontrager Dry X Tubeless Ready 29″er Tire

7. Geax Saguaro 29″er Tire

8. Velocity Blunt 29″er Rims

9. Raleigh XXIX+G 29″er

10. Michelin XC AT 29″er Tire

I’m going to start with the list in reverse order and give a few comments on each.

#10: The XC AT Tire: At the time, I felt the Michelin XC AT was the best mud shedding tire made for 29″ers, and that tire actually held that dubious honor until recently when the WTB Dissent took over at #1 for that trait. Oddly enough, Michelin didn’t introduce another 29″er tire for three years. (The as yet to be available “race’r” 29″er tread) Anyway, the XC AT is still a decent tire, but the lack of a tubeless ready variant, or any updates at all to this tire (namely a wider variant) make it a tread that is becoming less and less desirable as other tires come to market. In other words, this tire wouldn’t make a Top Ten List today.

#9: Raleigh’s XXIX+G: Back in late 2006 we got wind of a geared only steel 29″er rig coming from Raleigh. Well, it was a geared variant of their XXIX single speed offering. Eschewing the trend back then, (and still prevalent today) of doing single speed/geared, “do all frames”, Raleigh actually committed to a geared only/single speed only model format that they still hold true to in 2010. The frame, little changed since introduction, is starting to grow a little long in the tooth, but still holds appeal for having a specific geared outlook on life, and geometry which has come around to working out better today than it did when it was introduced as a 2007 model in late 2006. With “modern” fork offsets, this rig would probably still score a spot on the Top Ten list in 2009…..or even in 2010! Can anyone say “classic”?

#8: Velocity “Blunt” Rims: Funny, but we did a little review on these again in 2009. The Blunt was “tweaked” in late 2008 by Velocity to better fit 29″er tires and the graphics were toned down a bit. Still a decent product, it is going to be overshadowed by Velocity’s own P-35 rim, which was developed to be tubeless compatible and is wider at 35mm. With technology marching on, the Blunt , albeit a decent enough rim and available in a myriad of colors, isn’t a “Top Ten” product these days.

#7: Geax Saguaro Tires: Well, this tread is available yet today, and is as good as ever. The thing that Geax did, that Michelin didn’t do, is make the tread available in a tubeless ready format. The TNT version of the Saguaro also has a tougher sidewall, and slightly softer tread compound. Unfortunately it doesn’t play well with the most popular tubeless rim these days, Stan’s NoTubes products. If it did, it would probably leap to the top half of this year’s Top Ten list. However; since it is only really compatible with UST type rims, it won’t, since UST rims are still a scarcity in the wagon wheeler format.

#6: Bontrager Dry X TLR Tires: This tire is also still in production under the “XDX” label. (Bontrager thought the “Dry X” label was bad marketing) The first viable tubeless tire available to 29″er freaks, it still is a great all round tread. That said, I don’t foresee the XDX being around a whole lot longer, not like the Nanoraptor from WTB. Is the XDX still a “list maker”? Probably, but it isn’t as spectacular as it was in 2007. Even some of Bontrager’s newest designs are putting the XDX further back on the list of “list making” tires for me. Still, it is a decent tread, and the tubeless ready feature is the real deal. I’d consider it a possibility on the Top Ten List today, but not as high up as I did then.

#5: Willits Brand “WOW” Fork: Wes Williams of Willits Bikes is one of the pioneers of the modern 29 inch wheeled bicycle. Back in 2007 I got the chance to actually try out something made by the legendary torch wielder. The WOW fork, (Weird Or What), is a really lightweight, (for steel), uniquely designed fork that features designed in flex to help mitigate trail features from rattling your eyeballs out. While I wouldn’t term it as “suspension”, it did do a good job of taking small trail chatter out of the picture. With its odd looks, quirky builder, and storied brand name, the WOW fork would certainly be on a list today of Top Ten stuff for wagon wheeler freaks. Would it be #5? Probably not. But there is no denying it is a unique take on a rigid fork for a 29″er.

#4: WTB WeirWolf LT 29″er Tire: Yes, this is a great tire that I still enjoy to this very day. WTB isn’t on the forefront of tubeless tire technology for 29 inch wheels, but if they ever were to make a tubeless ready variant of the WeirWolf, it would be a Top Ten contender with a bullet. (Make a full tread version and that would also be on the list!) Still one of the fattest 29″er tires out there, the “WW LT” as it has become to be known as, is a great all round dry weather tire. Definitely this still would make the list today, albeit knocked down a few notches for no tubeless ready blessing from WTB.

#3: Salsa Cycles Dos Niner: Soft tail bikes with 29 inch wheels are few and far between. (Some would argue that is a good thing) Salsa Cycles has been making the Dos Niner for as long as they have been into 29″ers. Still a great bike, the design is getting a bit old now and is in need of some “freshining up”. That said, this rig is still going to score a Top Ten spot in 2010 just because it is still a great bike with a unique take on suspending the rear wheel. Is it still a top five product? Mmmm………maybe not anymore. Here’s to hoping we see an updated Dos Niner from Salsa Cycles sooner than later!

#2: Bontrager’s Tubeless Ready System: Looking back on 2007, this should have been #1. (More on that in a minute) This tubeless system was a few years in the making, but well worth the wait. Now with an expanded arsenal of compatible wheels and tires, Bontrager isn’t resting on its laurels. The system is bullet proof, (with the notable exception of the Super Juice sealant), and is totally worthy of Top Ten status to this day. My only nit is that it isn’t an “open standard” that is being offered by other rim and tire manufacturers. That said, the “TLR” system from Bontrager is one of my all time Top Ten products for 29″ers without a doubt.

#1: RST M-29 Suspension Fork: Back in 2007 there weren’t many options available for suspension forks for 29″ers. If you wanted a budget priced suspender, the choices were even fewer. RST was a company that serviced the bicycle manufacturers with forks on new bikes, but never really pushed into the aftermarket until 2007 and with that, this M-29 model. It was a great bang for the buck fork, and you can still find one here and there today, albeit as part of a frame deal. Since 2007 RST M-29’s were spec’ed on some Haro aluminum 29″ers, but pretty much shut down aftermarket sales and support. Nothing new had been seen until a Cannondale 29″er model was introduced for 2010 with a “Duece” fork from RST. With the lack of an aftermarket presence, and murky details on servicing M-29 forks available to consumers, the #1 status graced upon the M-29 in 2007 looks like a big mistake in 2009. I admit it. I called that one wrong in hindsight. But in in the context of 2007, it was an outstanding product.

Next on “Whatever Happened To….” we’ll take a look at 2008’s Top Ten List………..

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14 Responses to “Top Ten 29″er Products: Whatever Happened To…..?”

  1. 1 Letdown 

    I agree on the dos ive had two of them and its a great bike for xc/endurance races.When my second frame cracked they would not warranty the frame so i went with a specialized stumpjumper marathon frame instead.Only because specialized really stands behind there products.I think salsa needs to up the quality and customer service.If you can afford to buy a frame every season a salsas for you.

  2. 2 BMac 

    That WOW fork must be a work of art – it’s lighter than most carbon forks.

  3. 3 Cloxxki 

    BMac, please name one carbon fork that is heavier than the WOW?

  4. 4 BMac 

    Yup, got it wrong. You’re right.

    Was thinking of the Type 2 which is lighter than my On-One carbon fork.

    The WOW is still pretty good, it’s only 70gms heavier than my On-One carbon fork, and at that weight I’d consider it as comparable to carbon.

  5. 5 Jeff Moote 

    The regular folding version of the Saguaro works perfectly with Stans rims so the tight fit of the TNT and UST versions is pretty much a non-issue unless you insist on the unnecessarily heavy version of the casing. The regular Saguaro is already heavy and plenty tough enough for any terrain that you’d want that tread/casing volume for anyway. What I’d rather see is a lighter version of that tire for racing.

  6. 6 SteveK 

    I’ve run the Michelin XC AT’s tubeless on Stan’s rims with no problems. I haven’t tried the WTB’s you mention and still reach for the XC’s when the trails get muddy.

  7. 7 Anonymous 

    agree with stevek
    the xc at is an awesome tire for mud, nice and narrow so it gets to the bottom of a bog and can slice thru. plenty of well spaced knobs, has no problem being run tubeless with sealant .
    long wearing rubber compound and sooo much lighter than anything wtb.
    been using them in the northwest for 2 seasons now and they work well on every type of mud, slime, peanut butter, moss, grass, snow, ice, caked up kitty litter etc. still a winner in my book

  8. 8 Jeff 

    Meh.

  9. 9 The Seanman 

    The problem with many of Bontrager’s newest 29er tires is that they are not designed to be tubeless as were the dry x tires.

  10. 10 Oderus 

    @Seanman, only two of the Bontrager tires don’t come Tubless ready, the XR1 and the 29-0. Everything else is available TLR. As far as the the XR1 and 29-0, get the Expert version instead of the team and you can mount them on a tubeless Bont rim/strip combo just fine.

    @Gted: What do you mean the Saguaro is really only compatible with UST rims? I’ve run it tubeless on the WTB Laserdisc (converted using Rhythm rim strips) and on a wide variety of Bontrager wheels and rims. None of these are UST rims. I have GEAX TNT tires on 2 out of 3 bikes (I only run tubeless) and I don’t use UST rims on either. The Saguaro is a solid tire and anyone that wants a dependable great riding tire to run tubeless should look at these. I don’t think that Stans No Tubes are the most popular tubeless rims by any stretch. If you take into account every bike that comes with either Bont. or WTB wheels, they far exceed what Stan’s is producing. I get that both rims require a rim strip or tape, but so do the Stan’s rims. Knocking a tire because of it’s fit with one rim manufacturer is pretty subjective.

  11. 11 Shop Mechanic 

    I second Jeff’s comment on the Saguaro. I ran my standard ones tubeless and they worked great. No casing issues in sharp rocks either. That included a trip to Brianhead, UT where there are plenty of sharp rocks. One rock put a slice right down the center of a knob all the way to the casing but never punctured it. The tire was new at the time. I kept riding the tire until the tread wore out and it never punctured. Not bad. Now if they could just make the side knobs bigger…

  12. 12 Guitar Ted 

    @Oderus: I can not suggest that a TNT Saguaro will work tubeless with WTB rims since WTB doesn’t sell any 29 inch rims they condone for tubeless use. ;) I also know that Geax Saguaro TNT tires won’t fit on a Bontrager rim with the TLR plastic rim strip installed. ;)

    I didn’t say that “ghetto solutions” could not be applied. ;)

    @ Shop Mechanic: You will notice that I specifically called out the Geax Saguaro TNT and UST type tires. I did not mention the foldable version. ;)

  13. 13 Oderus 

    @Gted, GEAX TNT tires DO fit Bontrager rims with the rim strips installed. We set these up all the time for customers. We had this discussion before and I thought that we narrowed it down to some of you folks not having any technique to mount a tire. We only stock the TNT tires at our shop and we set them up on Bonty rims all the times with Stans or Caffelatex. Don’t slam the tires because you didn’t eat your Wheaties! :)

  14. 14 Guitar Ted 

    @Oderus: No- I think we agreed to disagree. I was at a shop and watched mechanics wrestle with a Rhythm wheel w/TLR strip and there was no way the first bead was even going on. This also corresponds with my experience.

    Again, I can’t recommend it because a few people get it, because they are not meant to go with each other.

    Glad you can get it to work.

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