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	<title>Comments on: Giant XTC 29&#8243;er: Sneak Peek!</title>
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		<title>By: pilotpapakilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilotpapakilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got my XTC 29 1 today and absolutely love it!!!!  Great Bike!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got my XTC 29 1 today and absolutely love it!!!!  Great Bike!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: am_dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>am_dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I typically ride mostly technial AM, vs XC trails.  I&#039;ve ridden several 29&#039;ers in the last year and like them, but do not think any of the current 29ers perform any better than the AM 26&#039;ers. 

I ride a Giant reign with Fox 36 fork w 20QR -- so I have found that most of the 29ers are not stiff enough in the front. 

I would jump at the opp to buy a 29er with a stiffer front, and another 1 inch of travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typically ride mostly technial AM, vs XC trails.  I&#8217;ve ridden several 29&#8242;ers in the last year and like them, but do not think any of the current 29ers perform any better than the AM 26&#8242;ers. </p>
<p>I ride a Giant reign with Fox 36 fork w 20QR &#8212; so I have found that most of the 29ers are not stiff enough in the front. </p>
<p>I would jump at the opp to buy a 29er with a stiffer front, and another 1 inch of travel.</p>
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		<title>By: large and fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>large and fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I remember Marz sending out an industry wide memo stating that they would never make a tapered steer fork...not too long ago

good thinkg we have all these new 29er frames poping up to push technology along...

keep the new frames and products coming; big company or small

nice work GTed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I remember Marz sending out an industry wide memo stating that they would never make a tapered steer fork&#8230;not too long ago</p>
<p>good thinkg we have all these new 29er frames poping up to push technology along&#8230;</p>
<p>keep the new frames and products coming; big company or small</p>
<p>nice work GTed</p>
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		<title>By: Dirt McGirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirt McGirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maximumradness-

Here here. Kids bikes make the best jumpers... and they&#039;re cheap cuz you go through them so quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maximumradness-</p>
<p>Here here. Kids bikes make the best jumpers&#8230; and they&#8217;re cheap cuz you go through them so quick.</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimmythefly: Thanks for that information. I thought perhaps somebody had already done the tapered seer tube on a hardtail, but I wasn&#039;t sure. :)

As to your comments on stiffness/steering precision, I think the tapered steer tube will absolutely make a difference. Keeping in mind that the 29&quot;er, by nature of it&#039;s design, means longer top and down tubes which are generally mated to a short head tube to reduce front end height. All these things conspire to make for a twisty front end on many 29&quot;ers. This, of course, gives you a vague steering feel and can cause big problems in handling through technical terrain. 

The tapered steer tube does a couple of things. First, it makes for a stiffer steer tube which will help with lever forces at the crown/steer tube junction- right where the taper is its largest. The taper will also dissapate energy in a better way as well. Secondly, the bigger diameter at the down tube/ head tube junction means larger cross section tubing can be utilised with a bigger weld surface area. This makes the front end stronger. Also, that bigger down tube resists twisting better, so the front end will feel more prescise. 

I really do not see any downside for 29&quot;er freaks and I suspect that in five years the straight steer tube may be extinct. I do know that by 2010 all major fork manufacturers will have tapered steer tube 29&quot;er forks in their lines. I think in conjunction with the through axle fork, the tapered steer tube fork will make 29&quot;ers handle far more precisely than we are accustomed to now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmythefly: Thanks for that information. I thought perhaps somebody had already done the tapered seer tube on a hardtail, but I wasn&#8217;t sure. <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As to your comments on stiffness/steering precision, I think the tapered steer tube will absolutely make a difference. Keeping in mind that the 29&#8243;er, by nature of it&#8217;s design, means longer top and down tubes which are generally mated to a short head tube to reduce front end height. All these things conspire to make for a twisty front end on many 29&#8243;ers. This, of course, gives you a vague steering feel and can cause big problems in handling through technical terrain. </p>
<p>The tapered steer tube does a couple of things. First, it makes for a stiffer steer tube which will help with lever forces at the crown/steer tube junction- right where the taper is its largest. The taper will also dissapate energy in a better way as well. Secondly, the bigger diameter at the down tube/ head tube junction means larger cross section tubing can be utilised with a bigger weld surface area. This makes the front end stronger. Also, that bigger down tube resists twisting better, so the front end will feel more prescise. </p>
<p>I really do not see any downside for 29&#8243;er freaks and I suspect that in five years the straight steer tube may be extinct. I do know that by 2010 all major fork manufacturers will have tapered steer tube 29&#8243;er forks in their lines. I think in conjunction with the through axle fork, the tapered steer tube fork will make 29&#8243;ers handle far more precisely than we are accustomed to now.</p>
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		<title>By: maximumradness</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximumradness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like neon chainrings....
and all bikes.
hydroformed is neat.
giant is cheap.
these are good things.
kids bikes jump better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like neon chainrings&#8230;.<br />
and all bikes.<br />
hydroformed is neat.<br />
giant is cheap.<br />
these are good things.<br />
kids bikes jump better.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidcopperfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidcopperfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to be stuck at 100mm travel at most. Why not a longer travel 130mm am/trail bicycles? Am guys want to switch but won&#039;t sucrifice talases 36mm stanchions and 20 axles and MaRZOCCHI 44 is unbecoming with 32mm and 15mm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to be stuck at 100mm travel at most. Why not a longer travel 130mm am/trail bicycles? Am guys want to switch but won&#8217;t sucrifice talases 36mm stanchions and 20 axles and MaRZOCCHI 44 is unbecoming with 32mm and 15mm.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmythefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmythefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS that last comment was from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS that last comment was from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not trying to play &quot;gotcha&quot; or anything, just an FYI.

Specialized Carbon-framed Stumpjumper hard tails are 1.5-1.125 tapered head tube.  The Sworks ones use a Specialized fork, the Expert uses a  specific SID.

I suspect most reviews of these bikes would rave about their steering, etc, but who knows how much is really attributable to the steerer size. I&#039;m curious to see this concept in a 29er, though I also suspect a lot of flex comes from the lowers/stanchion interface. Weren&#039;t headshoks supposed to have awesome steering precision? Why don&#039;t we see more of those on 29ers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not trying to play &#8220;gotcha&#8221; or anything, just an FYI.</p>
<p>Specialized Carbon-framed Stumpjumper hard tails are 1.5-1.125 tapered head tube.  The Sworks ones use a Specialized fork, the Expert uses a  specific SID.</p>
<p>I suspect most reviews of these bikes would rave about their steering, etc, but who knows how much is really attributable to the steerer size. I&#8217;m curious to see this concept in a 29er, though I also suspect a lot of flex comes from the lowers/stanchion interface. Weren&#8217;t headshoks supposed to have awesome steering precision? Why don&#8217;t we see more of those on 29ers?</p>
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		<title>By: professed</title>
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		<dc:creator>professed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn is right - as are you GT (as almost always! ) - This is big from a market point of view. One of the biggest players in the industry joining the 29er field eliminates any fringe aspect that might still exist and should increase the range of accessories.

Here at the bottom but sunny side of the earth, us big wheel riders and our bikes are still considered faddish and goofy which is great - we enjoy not having to pedal so hard as our kids bike riding brothers when we race along the trails....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn is right &#8211; as are you GT (as almost always! ) &#8211; This is big from a market point of view. One of the biggest players in the industry joining the 29er field eliminates any fringe aspect that might still exist and should increase the range of accessories.</p>
<p>Here at the bottom but sunny side of the earth, us big wheel riders and our bikes are still considered faddish and goofy which is great &#8211; we enjoy not having to pedal so hard as our kids bike riding brothers when we race along the trails&#8230;.</p>
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