Comments on: Salsa Cycles “Fargo” 29″er: Sneak Peek! http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:51:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: montclairbobbyb http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/#comment-52674 montclairbobbyb Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:46:07 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1229#comment-52674 Tourguy, you suggested an EBB... I stumbled upon this bike a few months ago; you may have heard of the Steelwool Tweed http://www.steelwoolbicycles.ca/bikes/tweed.php Steelwool is a small Canadian company... The Tweed is unique.... They describe it as "The Swiss Army Knife of Bikes".... It's a great-looking steel lugged frame... kinda reminds me of a Surly LHT, but includes disc brake bosses, a derailleur hanger AND... an EBB!! MSRP for frame and fork is $681 Canadian (that's around $525 US) Peace, MBB Tourguy, you suggested an EBB… I stumbled upon this bike a few months ago; you may have heard of the Steelwool Tweed http://www.steelwoolbicycles.ca/bikes/tweed.php

Steelwool is a small Canadian company… The Tweed is unique…. They describe it as “The Swiss Army Knife of Bikes”…. It’s a great-looking steel lugged frame… kinda reminds me of a Surly LHT, but includes disc brake bosses, a derailleur hanger AND… an EBB!!

MSRP for frame and fork is $681 Canadian (that’s around $525 US)

Peace,
MBB

]]> By: montclairbobbyb http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/#comment-52432 montclairbobbyb Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:03:54 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1229#comment-52432 Man, I am so stoked over this bike! I've been looking at the Tout Terrain Silk Road and the Thorn eXp, two exceptional bikes, but both have a LOFTY price tag, the Thorn lacks disc brakes, and both are 26ers (and there's nothing wrong with that, but having a steel 29er adventure tourer with disc brakes and all kinds of rack bosses for $650 is unprecedented). I own a Karate Monkey rigid (for which I have dabbled in transforming it into an urban-assault bike with my Schwalbe Big Apples, but it's too freakin awesome as a SS mountain bike)... so I have a pair of Big Apples waiting to be used... I also own a Kogswell P/R 650B with Midge On One bars, and barend shifters....it's a silky smooth ride and has the makings of a great tourer, except it simply cannot handle loaded touring without being noodly... so it's a wonderful bike to ride, but it has limited use.... Finally I own a Salsa Ala Carte with 650B wheels and disc brakes... Almost perfect for loaded touring, except it lacks the rack bosses (but I have adapters), and still has rack/disc brake clearance issues in the rear... I even added the Midge bars and Avid road disc brakes, figuring I'd have the ultimate adventure tourer... still have challenges with the racks, and somehow it wasn't as comfortable with the drop bars as I had thought, and I really missed the hydraulic disc brakes... so I put the drops back on the Kogswell and am running the Salsa like a 650B "roadster"... awesome bike, but not quite the "uber adventure bike" I had envisioned. The Fargo.... that may be the "game changer"... brilliant! brilliant!! Peace, MBB Man, I am so stoked over this bike! I’ve been looking at the Tout Terrain Silk Road and the Thorn eXp, two exceptional bikes, but both have a LOFTY price tag, the Thorn lacks disc brakes, and both are 26ers (and there’s nothing wrong with that, but having a steel 29er adventure tourer with disc brakes and all kinds of rack bosses for $650 is unprecedented).

I own a Karate Monkey rigid (for which I have dabbled in transforming it into an urban-assault bike with my Schwalbe Big Apples, but it’s too freakin awesome as a SS mountain bike)… so I have a pair of Big Apples waiting to be used…

I also own a Kogswell P/R 650B with Midge On One bars, and barend shifters….it’s a silky smooth ride and has the makings of a great tourer, except it simply cannot handle loaded touring without being noodly… so it’s a wonderful bike to ride, but it has limited use….

Finally I own a Salsa Ala Carte with 650B wheels and disc brakes… Almost perfect for loaded touring, except it lacks the rack bosses (but I have adapters), and still has rack/disc brake clearance issues in the rear… I even added the Midge bars and Avid road disc brakes, figuring I’d have the ultimate adventure tourer… still have challenges with the racks, and somehow it wasn’t as comfortable with the drop bars as I had thought, and I really missed the hydraulic disc brakes… so I put the drops back on the Kogswell and am running the Salsa like a 650B “roadster”… awesome bike, but not quite the “uber adventure bike” I had envisioned.

The Fargo…. that may be the “game changer”… brilliant! brilliant!!

Peace,
MBB

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/#comment-49569 Guitar Ted Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:50:44 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1229#comment-49569 Skinnyman: It is not optimized for the lenght a sauspension fork would have, so expect a big change in geometry and handling if you do put a suspension fork on it. The frame is butted CroMoly steel to Salsa's specs. I thought it rode with a typical springy steel feel that a good steel frame displays when done correctly. The fargo is a very competent single tracker. Its lower bottom bracket height makes it feel and handle better in the twisties than many other bikes, but this does lead to some pedal strike issues. Skinnyman: It is not optimized for the lenght a sauspension fork would have, so expect a big change in geometry and handling if you do put a suspension fork on it.

The frame is butted CroMoly steel to Salsa’s specs. I thought it rode with a typical springy steel feel that a good steel frame displays when done correctly. The fargo is a very competent single tracker. Its lower bottom bracket height makes it feel and handle better in the twisties than many other bikes, but this does lead to some pedal strike issues.

]]> By: Skinnyman http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/#comment-49524 Skinnyman Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:40:53 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1229#comment-49524 Some more questions on this great bike, maybe there are some Salsa guys out here. Can I use a suspension fork on it? Maybe someone has tested a setup with a flat bar and a suspension fork? How does it compare to XC 29ers on a trail? And maybe some more info on a frame... I'd be very grateful since I'm considering buying one for all-round use. Some more questions on this great bike, maybe there are some Salsa guys out here.
Can I use a suspension fork on it? Maybe someone has tested a setup with a flat bar and a suspension fork? How does it compare to XC 29ers on a trail? And maybe some more info on a frame… I’d be very grateful since I’m considering buying one for all-round use.

]]> By: jimmythefly http://twentynineinches.com/2008/09/04/salsa-cycles-fargo-29er-sneak-peek/#comment-47141 jimmythefly Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:50:10 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1229#comment-47141 @slocaus I see what you mean. I just think they got their names wrong when it comes to drop-bar bike sizing, a 57.5 top tube is barely in "medium" range(though it seems appropriate for mountain-bike sizing), and what Salsa calls a small at 55.5 EFF is much bigger than what most manufacturers call a "small" drop-bar touring frame. I understand that for a 29er there's a limit to how small a frame can work, just seems like the naming/sizing is still based around MTB 29er sizing, not drop-bar touring. Anyhows, we're all different on this, and it's not like consumers won't be able to figure it out, just struck me as odd. Tourguy and Steve, thanks for the insight into remote touring. I guess we'll need custom front and rear racks with built-in disc rotor guards! @slocaus I see what you mean. I just think they got their names wrong when it comes to drop-bar bike sizing, a 57.5 top tube is barely in “medium” range(though it seems appropriate for mountain-bike sizing), and what Salsa calls a small at 55.5 EFF is much bigger than what most manufacturers call a “small” drop-bar touring frame. I understand that for a 29er there’s a limit to how small a frame can work, just seems like the naming/sizing is still based around MTB 29er sizing, not drop-bar touring. Anyhows, we’re all different on this, and it’s not like consumers won’t be able to figure it out, just struck me as odd.

Tourguy and Steve, thanks for the insight into remote touring. I guess we’ll need custom front and rear racks with built-in disc rotor guards!

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