Comments on: Raleigh 2009 29″ers: Sneak Peek! http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:51:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-48081 Guitar Ted Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:21:37 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-48081 xxxix: Yes, you have that correct about the fork and frames from the three years of XXIX production. As for Raleigh's geometry being different: Well, it kind of is unique in its own way. Raleigh managed to produce a 29"er out of the box that could handle a 2.55" tire, had shortish chain stays for a 29"er at 17.25" , and a head tube angle with a suspension fork of about 70.5 degrees. (Unsagged with a 80mm travel Reba) Some other manufacturers have similar head tube angles, but longer chain stays. Some have shorter chain stays and steeper head tube angles. So, raleigh is a bit unique in their own way. Regarding the shorter fork and BB height, read my findings on An Experiment In Front End Geometry series on this site. It isn't as bad as you might think it would be. ;) xxxix: Yes, you have that correct about the fork and frames from the three years of XXIX production.

As for Raleigh’s geometry being different: Well, it kind of is unique in its own way. Raleigh managed to produce a 29″er out of the box that could handle a 2.55″ tire, had shortish chain stays for a 29″er at 17.25″ , and a head tube angle with a suspension fork of about 70.5 degrees. (Unsagged with a 80mm travel Reba)

Some other manufacturers have similar head tube angles, but longer chain stays. Some have shorter chain stays and steeper head tube angles. So, raleigh is a bit unique in their own way.

Regarding the shorter fork and BB height, read my findings on An Experiment In Front End Geometry series on this site. It isn’t as bad as you might think it would be. ;)

]]> By: xxxix http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-48069 xxxix Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:38:33 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-48069 So if I ran one of the 2007 XXIX rigid forks on a 2007, 2008, or a 2009 frame, they would all have the same geometry (except for the seat tube length). Do the 2007 Raleigh XXIX and XXIX+G frames have really different geometry than most other 29ers? If you ran a 440mm fork on any other 29er, I'd imagine your bb would be in the dirt. So if I ran one of the 2007 XXIX rigid forks on a 2007, 2008, or a 2009 frame, they would all have the same geometry (except for the seat tube length).

Do the 2007 Raleigh XXIX and XXIX+G frames have really different geometry than most other 29ers? If you ran a 440mm fork on any other 29er, I’d imagine your bb would be in the dirt.

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-47913 Guitar Ted Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:14:27 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-47913 dominick: You'd want to keep the '07 model you have then. The '09 will handle like the XXIX+G, since now the XXIX will be suspension corrected, making it's axle to crown length longer than your bikes, and slackening out the head angle ever so slightly. dominick: You’d want to keep the ’07 model you have then. The ’09 will handle like the XXIX+G, since now the XXIX will be suspension corrected, making it’s axle to crown length longer than your bikes, and slackening out the head angle ever so slightly.

]]> By: dominick http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-47893 dominick Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:28:27 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-47893 I have the original xxix(it's orange...2007-?) I wonder if current changes will affect handling, and if so, should I pick-up a 2008 while they are still available? Or are the changes an improvement warranting an upgrade? I weigh 290+ and am very happy with the durability and handling,will stay suspension-free. I have the original xxix(it’s orange…2007-?) I wonder if current changes will affect handling, and if so, should I pick-up a 2008 while they are still available? Or are the changes an improvement warranting an upgrade? I weigh 290+ and am very happy with the durability and handling,will stay suspension-free.

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-44958 Guitar Ted Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:00:47 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/07/08/raleigh-2009-29ers-sneak-peek/#comment-44958 xxxix: The style of the decal is a style that is seen a lot in recent years on BMX street bikes. The geometry of the frame itself is unchanged from 2007. Yes, both the geared and single speed frames are set up with the same angles. the only modification to the main frame for 2009 is that the seat tube lengths are slightly longer. You can find steel and carbon forks that will mimic the original XXIX fork from several sources. Just check around, but some suggestions would be Origin 8, Salsa, OS Bikes, and several more. xxxix: The style of the decal is a style that is seen a lot in recent years on BMX street bikes.

The geometry of the frame itself is unchanged from 2007. Yes, both the geared and single speed frames are set up with the same angles. the only modification to the main frame for 2009 is that the seat tube lengths are slightly longer.

You can find steel and carbon forks that will mimic the original XXIX fork from several sources. Just check around, but some suggestions would be Origin 8, Salsa, OS Bikes, and several more.

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