Comments on: Gray Matter

By: TedT

TedT — Mon, 19 May 2008 07:03:58 +0000

One more for the list! Chinese made?

http://www.evertibikes.com/29r.htm

By: J Rahm

J Rahm — Sun, 18 May 2008 14:10:59 +0000

Titus should be on the list, with a hardtail (Fireline 29) and a ti Racer-x (my ride, love it).

By: George Krpan

George Krpan — Sat, 17 May 2008 23:42:05 +0000

Seems like they were some cheap titanium frames before dual suspension bikes took over in the 26er world.
Could be we’ll see the same for 29ers since a 29er hardtail is a viable machine unlike it’s poor relation, the 26er hardtail.

By: bpierro

bpierro — Sat, 17 May 2008 20:25:51 +0000

I dont really care that much my man. I just thought I had read that somewhere and was happy to find out my brain does actually retain some bits of what goes in.

I didnt mean to offend or prove I was right.

By: name:este

name:este — Sat, 17 May 2008 16:35:33 +0000

Try it from this angle. Wes was building 28″ wheeled bikes specifically for use as mtn. bikes when the 52/47 700c Nano came into play. All it took was to mount the tires and it was a 29″ wheeled mtn. bike. It is not like he took a touring bike and stuffed the tires on it.

What matters is that 29″ is.

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:04:25 +0000

JOn: Yeah? What’s wrong with having an opinion?

By: JOn

JOn — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:35:23 +0000

Wow, just a little opinionated there. Eh, Ted?

By: bpierro

bpierro — Sat, 17 May 2008 06:18:07 +0000

Link to follow from GT’s own blog referring to what I thought to have remembered.

“Everyone in Crested Butte knows that the modified 28″ers were the first to roll the Nanoraptors, but the first purpose built bike for those tires could arguably be said to be that Moots.”

Check it out here… http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2007/08/who-dunnit.html

By: bpierro

bpierro — Sat, 17 May 2008 06:15:47 +0000

A quote from G-Teds own blog —

“Everyone in Crested Butte knows that the modified 28″ers were the first to roll the Nanoraptors, but the first purpose built bike for those tires could arguably be said to be that Moots.”

Referring to that of who created the 29er. The argument is between either Don Cook or Wes Williams both in Crested Butte at the time with Cook as being the one with Kent Eriksen of Moots to build the first purposeful 29er while Williams was massaging his 28 inch version bike for the new nanoraptor tires.

http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2007/08/who-dunnit.html

I knew I had read something of the order but didnt recall the details… either way like GT said… probably doesn’t really matter.

By: name:este

name:este — Sat, 17 May 2008 04:35:02 +0000

“Am I mistaken to think they were the first company to produce a modern 29er of any kind with the Mootoo-X frame?”

Yes. And in fact it took them a few years to even figure out how to leave enough room for a Nanoraptor in the rear triangle. Wes Williams built the first 29″er in the spring of 99′, and it was Ti btw, and also the first 29″ FS frame that was finished and shown at Interbike in 99′. It was also made of Ti.

The current fascination with Ti though is mainly because it is there and being offered by as many as that list above indicates. However the price of the material is going up daily and it will be interesting to see how long people will support it? I have no gripes about Ti though and there are 4 bikes in my garage made of it. But I would not spec it on anything I need built from now on. But my personal biking needs are simplifying for use as a tool, not a toy.