Comments on: Sea Otter Classic: Day Three http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sea-otter-classic-day-three 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Fri, 25 May 2012 00:28:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/#comment-38823 Guitar Ted Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:44:30 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1142#comment-38823 Anonymous: It is not a proven fact that shorter spokes and higher flanges alone make a wheel stronger. In fact, it is a marginal improvement in most cases. What usually makes a wheel stronger than another is a combination of the length of spoke, Hub flange design/diameter, materials that the components are made from, spoke pattern, spoke triangulation, and spoke tension. Of these, spoke triagulation is probably the most important. To some degree, the larger hub flange on the Chub Hub is going to increase spoke triangulation, thus increasing strength. The fact that the spokes are shorter is a by product of increasing the triangulation and not necessarily the reason behind the wheels increase in strength. An even greater increase in strength would be realized if the hub flanges could be set further outboard, regardless of the flange diameter. Of course, current OLD standards prevent this for the most part. My statement in the paragraph on the Chub Hub in the post was alluding to the statements made by Chub hub regarding their product. Anonymous: It is not a proven fact that shorter spokes and higher flanges alone make a wheel stronger. In fact, it is a marginal improvement in most cases. What usually makes a wheel stronger than another is a combination of the length of spoke, Hub flange design/diameter, materials that the components are made from, spoke pattern, spoke triangulation, and spoke tension. Of these, spoke triagulation is probably the most important.

To some degree, the larger hub flange on the Chub Hub is going to increase spoke triangulation, thus increasing strength. The fact that the spokes are shorter is a by product of increasing the triangulation and not necessarily the reason behind the wheels increase in strength. An even greater increase in strength would be realized if the hub flanges could be set further outboard, regardless of the flange diameter. Of course, current OLD standards prevent this for the most part.

My statement in the paragraph on the Chub Hub in the post was alluding to the statements made by Chub hub regarding their product.

]]> By: Anonymous http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/#comment-38822 Anonymous Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:14:17 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1142#comment-38822 A Question Of Wheel Strength February 26th, 2008 by Guitar Ted In fact, hub flange diameter, and thus spoke length, are much less of a factor. Increasing flange diameter has not been proven to show much, if any, increase in wheel strength. A Question Of Wheel Strength
February 26th, 2008 by Guitar Ted

In fact, hub flange diameter, and thus spoke length, are much less of a factor. Increasing flange diameter has not been proven to show much, if any, increase in wheel strength.

]]> By: Anonymous http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/#comment-38821 Anonymous Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:11:46 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1142#comment-38821 I thought there was a recent thred put up about this topic. "Then I noticed it was a disc hub with a thread on freewheel mount. Cool! A single speed hub. The Chub Hub comes in single speed/disc, or for a fixed gear application. Seems that the larger flanges give a shorter spoke length for a stronger wheel build." But in that thread the gist was that a larger flange did not make the 29er wheel stronger. What gives? I thought there was a recent thred put up about this topic.

“Then I noticed it was a disc hub with a thread on freewheel mount. Cool! A single speed hub. The Chub Hub comes in single speed/disc, or for a fixed gear application. Seems that the larger flanges give a shorter spoke length for a stronger wheel build.”
But in that thread the gist was that a larger flange did not make the 29er wheel stronger. What gives?

]]> By: Brendan http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/#comment-38600 Brendan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:31:04 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1142#comment-38600 Sounds like a good plan, hopefully someone in NE will snatch one up so I can catch a glimpse of one in real life. Thanks for supporting the advocacy side of things, I really do wish more companies were on board like you all and saw the importance of being involved. Makes me dig my Rip 9 that much more :) Sounds like a good plan, hopefully someone in NE will snatch one up so I can catch a glimpse of one in real life. Thanks for supporting the advocacy side of things, I really do wish more companies were on board like you all and saw the importance of being involved. Makes me dig my Rip 9 that much more :)

]]> By: Steve http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/20/sea-otter-classic-day-three/#comment-38590 Steve Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:33:30 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/?p=1142#comment-38590 Brendan, We'll do one better than that. Spectrum Powder Works is painting 25 more of these M.C.R. 9 frame and fork combos exactly like this, and we'll be selling them to whoever wants to by them (for a very resonable $1149 for the frame and fork) to raise both money and awareness for IMBA. So, while we're not auctioning them off, this will actually raise more money for IMBA and be a great way for consumers to get an awesome, very limited edition frame for a pretty good price. Steve Niner Bikes Brendan,

We’ll do one better than that. Spectrum Powder Works is painting 25 more of these M.C.R. 9 frame and fork combos exactly like this, and we’ll be selling them to whoever wants to by them (for a very resonable $1149 for the frame and fork) to raise both money and awareness for IMBA. So, while we’re not auctioning them off, this will actually raise more money for IMBA and be a great way for consumers to get an awesome, very limited edition frame for a pretty good price.

Steve
Niner Bikes

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