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	<title>Comments on: Sea Otter Classic: Day One- Part II</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ted T</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38422</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FMB? What does that stand for again please?

http://www.fm-boyaux.fr/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FMB? What does that stand for again please?</p>
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		<title>By: manchester trev</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38388</link>
		<dc:creator>manchester trev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FMB is the person who makes them , Francois Marie Boyaux

www.fm-boyaux.fr

hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FMB is the person who makes them , Francois Marie Boyaux</p>
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<p>hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38376</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FMB? What does that stand for again please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FMB? What does that stand for again please?</p>
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		<title>By: manchester trev</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38362</link>
		<dc:creator>manchester trev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JHK and T- Brown used dugast 45mm tubs on bonty carbon rims, with great success, and there only 19mm wide, if i was to do it id use mavic reflex at 21mm, and also dugast will custom any 29er tire up to 2.00 wide onto a tubular, as will FMB, who are apparently making a 700x50c tub at the moment..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JHK and T- Brown used dugast 45mm tubs on bonty carbon rims, with great success, and there only 19mm wide, if i was to do it id use mavic reflex at 21mm, and also dugast will custom any 29er tire up to 2.00 wide onto a tubular, as will FMB, who are apparently making a 700&#215;50c tub at the moment&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38346</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to hold the Edge wheels today and they are killer nice and killer expensive...  800'ish per rim.  Whoa!   Way, out of my reach.

I also saw the Spot belt drive in person and that's a really hot setup.  They said they will be selling a conversion kit, which should be about $150 from QBP.  If you have the Breezer style dropouts you can modify your frame to accept the belt drive system.  When I get home I'm going to see what frame I can convert, because I loved it and want it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to hold the Edge wheels today and they are killer nice and killer expensive&#8230;  800&#8242;ish per rim.  Whoa!   Way, out of my reach.</p>
<p>I also saw the Spot belt drive in person and that&#8217;s a really hot setup.  They said they will be selling a conversion kit, which should be about $150 from QBP.  If you have the Breezer style dropouts you can modify your frame to accept the belt drive system.  When I get home I&#8217;m going to see what frame I can convert, because I loved it and want it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38290</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugast has been taking order for custom 45mm tubs for years, and could do wider if asked kindly. Several Olympians already got such tires, just in case, for the 2004 Athens Games. Offer Dugast a 26"x50mm tires, and you up with a 29x45 tubular due to the stretching of the tread.
I saw a Belgian guy at a race once, Ksyriums with Ritchey treaded tubulars. He rolled one off the narrow rim and DNF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugast has been taking order for custom 45mm tubs for years, and could do wider if asked kindly. Several Olympians already got such tires, just in case, for the 2004 Athens Games. Offer Dugast a 26&#8243;x50mm tires, and you up with a 29&#215;45 tubular due to the stretching of the tread.<br />
I saw a Belgian guy at a race once, Ksyriums with Ritchey treaded tubulars. He rolled one off the narrow rim and DNF.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hilimire</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hilimire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm guessing edge is on to something here.  Word on the street is that JHK is testing out some tubulars laced up to 29" carbon bontrager rims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing edge is on to something here.  Word on the street is that JHK is testing out some tubulars laced up to 29&#8243; carbon bontrager rims.</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38273</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eurowheels: The rims they have been testing are clinchers. Actually, tubular rims are stronger than clinchers due to the shape of the cross section.

mike: Interesting. It would seem that the lawyers are busy in the cycling world these days. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eurowheels: The rims they have been testing are clinchers. Actually, tubular rims are stronger than clinchers due to the shape of the cross section.</p>
<p>mike: Interesting. It would seem that the lawyers are busy in the cycling world these days. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Sevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I have a set coming next week. 

The technology is there. I worked at LEW when we were working on  carbon clinchers. We had a client worried they would crack when hit with a pot hole. My boss smacked them against the curb with a road tire pumped to 140lbs....no issue. 

Now me being one to be a bit extreme, I ripped the tire off and smacked the wheel into the curb myself....with my full force (i'm 230lbs it wasn't a tap and well I like to break stuff). Nothing. it actually CHIPPED the curb!

I road 1200 gram (real weight) road wheels 16/20 spokes f/r for almost a year. I had a license to kill and hit every pot hole I could and road dirt roads with them. Nothing. Didn't go out of true a hair. 

The first wave of wheels are clinchers as I understand it. Testing stuff on the DL is very easy actually. Rock Shox does it all the time. It's not like you go test stuff with your logo all over a van and make it known. It happens all the time. 

Tubular 29er wheels...interesting thought. Time will tell. To test those wouldn't be too tough as I believe there are 44mm tubular cross tires out there which would actually be harsher on the rims from a durability standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I have a set coming next week. </p>
<p>The technology is there. I worked at LEW when we were working on  carbon clinchers. We had a client worried they would crack when hit with a pot hole. My boss smacked them against the curb with a road tire pumped to 140lbs&#8230;.no issue. </p>
<p>Now me being one to be a bit extreme, I ripped the tire off and smacked the wheel into the curb myself&#8230;.with my full force (i&#8217;m 230lbs it wasn&#8217;t a tap and well I like to break stuff). Nothing. it actually CHIPPED the curb!</p>
<p>I road 1200 gram (real weight) road wheels 16/20 spokes f/r for almost a year. I had a license to kill and hit every pot hole I could and road dirt roads with them. Nothing. Didn&#8217;t go out of true a hair. </p>
<p>The first wave of wheels are clinchers as I understand it. Testing stuff on the DL is very easy actually. Rock Shox does it all the time. It&#8217;s not like you go test stuff with your logo all over a van and make it known. It happens all the time. </p>
<p>Tubular 29er wheels&#8230;interesting thought. Time will tell. To test those wouldn&#8217;t be too tough as I believe there are 44mm tubular cross tires out there which would actually be harsher on the rims from a durability standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: EuroWheels</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/04/18/sea-otter-classic-day-one-part-ii/#comment-38253</link>
		<dc:creator>EuroWheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't hold your breath waiting for those Edge wheels. Forgetting any other mountains of doubt, how do you "quietly test[ing] these hoops in some pretty demanding conditions for two years now" without tires?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for those Edge wheels. Forgetting any other mountains of doubt, how do you &#8220;quietly test[ing] these hoops in some pretty demanding conditions for two years now&#8221; without tires?</p>
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