Gary Fisher Hi Fi Deluxe 29″er: Update
March 20th, 2008 by Guitar Ted
It has been awhile since I have been able to throw a leg over the Hi Fi Deluxe 29″er on true off road trail since the area where I have been living has become home to seemingly perpetual ice and snow conditions. That is why I took the Hi Fi Deluxe on vacation with me to El Paso Texas. (The same place I have been riding the Siren Song) Here is an update of the Hi Fi Deluxe 29″er for you to take a look at……finally!
I should mention that I felt compelled to make a couple of modifications to the stock Hi Fi Deluxe set up. I will detail those now: First, the wheels and tires were going to be needing to be tubeless due to the cactus infested trails I would be riding on. Since the rim strips necessary for the Rhythm wheels to be made tubeless were not yet available, I went with the Bontrager Race X Lite TLR wheels we tested last year. I shod those with a fresh set of Bontrager Dry X tires and called that good. Secondly, the Bontrager grips were not agreeing with my paws, so I swapped out for a pair of Team Green Ergon GE 1 grips. Thirdly, and last of all, I swapped out the 160mm front rotor for a 185mm one. Peace of mind for me more than anything else there.
Now it was off to ride the same loop I did on the Siren Song. Again, I was facing some of the rockiest technical terrain I have ever ridden. The Hi Fi sucked it all right up and asked for more. This bike made riding these trails so much easier that I cleaned sections that surprised me. The limiting factor? Not the bike, but my lack of fitness this soon in the season. That is something I knew would be a limiting factor, so I was all right with that. At least the bike was up to the task!
The overriding factor that kept coming into my mind as I rode was how well the Hi Fi platform climbs. I was clawing up loose rocky ascents with ease that was surprising me. Bigger rocks and step ups were no hindrance. The bike had as much traction as I needed every time, the Dry X tires having a great deal to do with that as well, no doubt. The rear suspension was using all of its travel but I didn’t notice it. The average travel was about 2/3rds of the shock stroke, so I was using a fair amount of the travel on most of this trail. That doesn’t surprise me one bit. The quality of the travel wasn’t buttery smooth like say, a Niner R.I.P.9, it was firm, yet forgiving. That’s the best I can come up with to describe it. No weird flexiness was apparent. No rubbing of the chain stays or anything negative in that way at all was experienced.
The front shock was a slightly different story. I never got the full stroke out of it- probably three inches or slightly less was all. Funny thing was is I didn’t notice that it wasn’t traveling the full 100mm. The Fox F-29 was very rigid laterally and fore and aft. No weird sensations in off cambers, rock fields, or high speed cornering. I was just a bit disappointed to see it only got part of the travel on hand. I could have futzed with the air pressure, but as I checked the sag just before the ride, it was spot on, so I didn’t bother to try that. I will say that the balance front to rear felt great to my mind.
A word on G2: I really like G2 geometry for most of the riding I do, but I found myself wishing for something maybe not quite so eager to turn on these super technical and rocky trails. I had to really be on top of the steering to make sure I didn’t get in over my head. Now to be fair, there also were several times I was glad for it, as I made a quick maneuver around a broken off chunk of prickly pear, for instance. Or when the slow speed attributes of G2 came into play, I was loving it. It is just that the front end of a G2 29″er handles so much like a 26″er, and less like a 29″er, that’s all. You just have to pay attention. Let you mind wander off the task at hand for a moment, you could be eating cactus! Well, if you were riding in El Paso Texas, you would!
Other than that niggle, the front end was rock solid and never felt vague or flexy in any way. That monstrous down tube on the Hi Fi’s frame is the reason for this. It allows for a huge weld area to attach to the head tube and the top tube. The bottom bracket area benefits from this as well.
A couple of notes on the rest of the bike: The cassette has one gear on it that wants to pick up the side plate of the chain in one place and results in an annoying “click” once every cassette revolution in that gear. The Avid Juicy brakes have worked just great throughout the testing period so far, even in ice and snow. The SRAM drive train is great as always. ( The cassette issue not with standing) Shifts were made easily and whenever I needed them. The Shimano two piece crank has been great and feels solid. Nothing shifts like Shimano’s front chain wheels, that’s for sure. The Bontrager Race X Lite wheels are not really supposed to be brutalized like I did, but they came through with flying colors. I never expected to be this pleased with their performance. Of course, the tubeless ready system employed by Bontrager is top notch stuff. Highly recommended! Dry X tires are really surprising in their performance here too.
I will say in conclusion to this update what I murmured to myself as I put the bike away after the ride on that rocky trail the other day, “What a fun bike!” That about sums up the Gary Fisher Hi Fi Deluxe in a nutshell. Stay tuned for further updates coming soon!







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Nice review Guitar Ted. I had wondered how the G2 handling was going to be down there, and you definitely answered my questions there. And honestly, from the sounds of the amount of travel you were getting out of the rear, I’m not surprised at the travel you were getting out of the front. Sounds like you actually had it balanced out fairly well, if set a bit stiff. Perhaps your Fox components are still breaking in as well… the 08 stuff is taking a while, I’ve heard from a few people (though I have no first-hand experience with it (yet, I hope).
Thanks for the update!
Cheers,
MG
Bummer… I tried to comment on this a second ago, but all my comments were lost.
GT,
I had the same issues on my G2 Fox as you mentioned regarding travel on my Rig at both 80 and 100mm. I drained the fluids from the non drive side (air chamber) and refilled according to spec and the problems went away. From what I gathered through some research, it is common on new fox forks to have this problem.
I also demoed a Hifi pro and thought the rear was very harsh compared to my expectations of this much travel and wondered if a high volume canister on the RP23 would help the issue. I did note that the Hifi wheelied on command easier than any other 29er I have demoed which I though was a nice feature.
What would be the differences between Hi-fi pro and Hi-fi deluxe while riding? Just the weight and apparel?
I just finished a week long vacation riding at Palo Duro in Texas on my new HiFi Deluxe and I completely agree with this review. My stock HiFi worked flawlessly, handled the rough terrain smoothly, climbed very well, and was fast through the tight singletrack. Palo Duro has all types of trails - wide, narrow, climbs, descents, rocks, drops, sand, hard pack - and I had a great time riding those trails on this machine. It is very fast and smooth.
I’m a medium sized rider and found the HiFi to be the best performing bike out of many I tried at the Ballyhoo last year. There were others that I like better in one aspect or another but when I added up everything about the HiFi it really has high marks in many areas which made it my number one choice overall. I may be a bit biased though because I do ride a 26er full suspension half the time and a 29er rigid ss the rest of the time so the G2 geometry really made me feel comfortable on the HiFi. I also was amazed at how well the HiFi pedaled up that big first hill on the Decorah trails, and I rode it probably on my 4th time heading up it, so that says a lot. I say rode but it was more like mashing and gasping, then dropping to the ultimate granny gear and spinning while gasping. Haha. I have to say that for someone who likes the light, quick handling characteristics of a 26er, the HiFi is really a great choice for a 29er, I really felt that this bike of all I have ridden did an excellent job of combining the best of both worlds. I’m glad that you pointed that out about the steering because it made me realize why I probably enjoyed that model so much.
Thanks for all the comments.
mg: Yeah, maybe it is still breaking in. That’s possible. I’ll keep an eye on that.
ScottS: I have heard this from others about the fluid being set at too high a level in the fork leg. Another possibility I may explore. As far as a rear damper unit, I wonder if the Rock Shox Monarch with the high volume can would fit. Might be interesting.
Davidcopperfield: My thought is you would only notice a bit lighter weight on the climbs. A bit more sophisticated suspension as well.
Dennism, Runjwalker: Glad you are both digging your rides! Thanks for chiming in.
G-Ted:
It’s pretty impossible for Fox to have a rear shock that encompasses all weights and riding styles of so many riders. If I owned the HiFi - I would send the Fox RP2 rear shock off to Push Industries to have the Factory Tuning Service done to dial it in for my weight and riding style.
I’ve done this with my Fox Float R on the Sugar and it’s a night and day difference to have it tuned for my specific weight and riding style.
Isn’t the Hifi Deluxe lighter than the Hifi Pro?