Comments on: Making A Case For A Long Travel 29″er: Part II http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/ 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:26:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-40152 Guitar Ted Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:50:00 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-40152 Cormac: The Zinn bike is a Lenz made bike only bigger. :) Cormac: The Zinn bike is a Lenz made bike only bigger. :)

]]> By: Cormac http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-40149 Cormac Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:35:03 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-40149 Ted you forgot to mention the Gigabike from Zinn Cycles its got 5" travel Ted you forgot to mention the Gigabike from Zinn Cycles its got 5″ travel

]]> By: jb http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36211 jb Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:28:07 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36211 29ers aren't the be all and end all for mountain bikes. As GT said in the last thread, 26ers fit the bill really well for a lot of folks, too. All 29er and 650b proponents who think that they're going to replace all 26"s are sadly delusional. With the 650b rhetoric that's been spouted by its proponents about replacing 26 and 29, is it any wonder that 29er folks get a little chafed? As for long-travel 29ers, the Niner proto looks interesting- I'd love to ride one- but just because you *can* build it doesn't mean it'll ride better than its 26er counterparts. Just looking at the bike, it looks very tall yet cramped for a 6" freeride bike, and I can't see how it would provide me with a better lift-served freeride/dh experience than my current 8" travel 26er. 29ers aren’t the be all and end all for mountain bikes. As GT said in the last thread, 26ers fit the bill really well for a lot of folks, too. All 29er and 650b proponents who think that they’re going to replace all 26″s are sadly delusional.

With the 650b rhetoric that’s been spouted by its proponents about replacing 26 and 29, is it any wonder that 29er folks get a little chafed?

As for long-travel 29ers, the Niner proto looks interesting- I’d love to ride one- but just because you *can* build it doesn’t mean it’ll ride better than its 26er counterparts. Just looking at the bike, it looks very tall yet cramped for a 6″ freeride bike, and I can’t see how it would provide me with a better lift-served freeride/dh experience than my current 8″ travel 26er.

]]> By: emetal http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36194 emetal Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:33:58 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36194 my niner air nine is 21.5 lbs. without even too much exotic stuff! could use some more tread for spring though... my niner air nine is 21.5 lbs. without even too much exotic stuff! could use some more tread for spring though…

]]> By: Dirt McGirt http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36191 Dirt McGirt Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:13:44 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36191 Jeremy- you should take all that energy that you put into thinking about toe overlap and GO AND CUT THE GRASS ALREADY!!! Jeremy- you should take all that energy that you put into thinking about toe overlap and GO AND CUT THE GRASS ALREADY!!!

]]> By: Vandal http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36190 Vandal Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:06:34 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36190 Chicks dig big wheels. Chicks dig big wheels.

]]> By: martini http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36188 martini Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:02:11 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36188 No matter what postulated here, or on any other forum - there is a market for every freak bike out there. Us calling out 650b's for being the odd duck,. and not really worth the attention is falling on deaf ears for the 650b proponents. Frankly, its falling on deaf ears on me. I truly think there is room in the market for something like the B's. 29"er's are NOT the be all and end all for mountain bikes. They are another option in the marketplace. I've had a similar rant to this else where here, and my point remains the same. There are shops that will be knowledgeable, and those that won't. My shop IS one of those knowledgeable shops. I might not be able to stock any of these items, but I know damned well what they are, and where to get them if a customer asks. I ain't turning away good money folks! This whole which wheel is better argument, while good for subject matter, is really past. We had it with 29 vs 26, and now we're battling it out with 650b. Why? What does it REALLY matter? Like I stated above - there IS a market for it. A small one. But its growing. Just like 29" was a few years back. Do I think B's will have as much market as 29"? No. I don't think that a community as conservative as mountain biking is willing to foot three equal wheel formats. Sure would be cool though. Bikes is bikes folks. Don't forget that. They're ALL good. I could care less what someone is riding, so long AS THEY'RE RIDING. No matter what postulated here, or on any other forum - there is a market for every freak bike out there. Us calling out 650b’s for being the odd duck,. and not really worth the attention is falling on deaf ears for the 650b proponents. Frankly, its falling on deaf ears on me. I truly think there is room in the market for something like the B’s. 29″er’s are NOT the be all and end all for mountain bikes. They are another option in the marketplace. I’ve had a similar rant to this else where here, and my point remains the same. There are shops that will be knowledgeable, and those that won’t. My shop IS one of those knowledgeable shops. I might not be able to stock any of these items, but I know damned well what they are, and where to get them if a customer asks. I ain’t turning away good money folks!

This whole which wheel is better argument, while good for subject matter, is really past. We had it with 29 vs 26, and now we’re battling it out with 650b. Why? What does it REALLY matter? Like I stated above - there IS a market for it. A small one. But its growing. Just like 29″ was a few years back. Do I think B’s will have as much market as 29″? No. I don’t think that a community as conservative as mountain biking is willing to foot three equal wheel formats. Sure would be cool though.

Bikes is bikes folks. Don’t forget that. They’re ALL good. I could care less what someone is riding, so long AS THEY’RE RIDING.

]]> By: Oderus http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36185 Oderus Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:54:26 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36185 Elephantine weight? I built both of my 29ers myself and they weigh as much as my 26" hardtails. If you build it with heavy stuff it will be heavy. Duh! everybike can be lightened. One of my co-workers built a Niner Air 9 up to less than 22 lbs.......with a shock. Weight is not an issue in my opinion. I looked at the Niner bike at interbike and the design is clearly thought out. I think they will sell out of this bike when it is released. I myself look forward to getting a demo to tear up Horsetooth Mountain Park with. Elephantine weight? I built both of my 29ers myself and they weigh as much as my 26″ hardtails. If you build it with heavy stuff it will be heavy. Duh! everybike can be lightened. One of my co-workers built a Niner Air 9 up to less than 22 lbs…….with a shock. Weight is not an issue in my opinion. I looked at the Niner bike at interbike and the design is clearly thought out. I think they will sell out of this bike when it is released. I myself look forward to getting a demo to tear up Horsetooth Mountain Park with.

]]> By: Davidcopperfield http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36180 Davidcopperfield Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:10:50 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36180 @Anonymous This same aspect of un/sprung mass in noticeable in 26ers when you compare them to 24ers. For a short human being 26er has elephantine weight whereas a for big dude a 29er LT might be just the knock on the nail's head. Masz and chainstays are all variables as given person physical features- like weight, height and agility. @Anonymous

This same aspect of un/sprung mass in noticeable in 26ers when you compare them to 24ers. For a short human being 26er has elephantine weight whereas a for big dude a 29er LT might be just the knock on the nail’s head. Masz and chainstays are all variables as given person physical features- like weight, height and agility.

]]> By: Cloxxki http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36179 Cloxxki Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/05/making-a-case-for-a-long-travel-29er-part-ii/#comment-36179 @Anonymous : FS or HT, the weight penalty is still going to be around a pound over 26". Show me a heavy 29"er and I'll show you a heavy 26"er built exactly the same, weighing mere pound less. @Anonymous : FS or HT, the weight penalty is still going to be around a pound over 26″. Show me a heavy 29″er and I’ll show you a heavy 26″er built exactly the same, weighing mere pound less.

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