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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SCSS29</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2008/01/15/29er-specific-crank-set-thats-soooo-90s/#comment-40579</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSS29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew I had a gearing problem. I just rode the bike and shifted the gears and rode the bike some more. Boy what a dope I was. Thank you twentynineinches for helping discover the depth of my denile. I honestly had no idea that my gear inches were so screwed up. Now I can't even look at my bike without feeling like a complete idiot! Are there meetings I can attend to help me come to grips with this issue. Or are my grips out to get me too. Please help. I miss riding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew I had a gearing problem. I just rode the bike and shifted the gears and rode the bike some more. Boy what a dope I was. Thank you twentynineinches for helping discover the depth of my denile. I honestly had no idea that my gear inches were so screwed up. Now I can&#8217;t even look at my bike without feeling like a complete idiot! Are there meetings I can attend to help me come to grips with this issue. Or are my grips out to get me too. Please help. I miss riding.</p>
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		<title>By: dan cuaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan cuaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi fellow riders i lived in abq nm all my life. owned bikes for 4 decades. rode lots of nm mtns so here goes my opion on 29 gearing. i currently own a salsa mamasita and a raleigh xxix. with my weight 200 lbs. and fairly fit rider. ive'd enjoyed running lower gearing. on the raleigh a 4 bolt stylo crank. 20-30 -38 and on the salsa 5 bolt suntour pro. 20-30-42. for me the gearing feels exactly like a 26 inch bike. the taller big gear i never use on the salsa. and climbing out of climb's a snap. its cheaper to built a 5 bolt crank than haviing limited seletion for 4 bolt. can't wait for the next round of tech. 2x11 sounds great. to me the big companies would bebefit selling29ers with this gearing to ofset the neg feedback on slow accelarating 29ers. happy trails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi fellow riders i lived in abq nm all my life. owned bikes for 4 decades. rode lots of nm mtns so here goes my opion on 29 gearing. i currently own a salsa mamasita and a raleigh xxix. with my weight 200 lbs. and fairly fit rider. ive&#8217;d enjoyed running lower gearing. on the raleigh a 4 bolt stylo crank. 20-30 -38 and on the salsa 5 bolt suntour pro. 20-30-42. for me the gearing feels exactly like a 26 inch bike. the taller big gear i never use on the salsa. and climbing out of climb&#8217;s a snap. its cheaper to built a 5 bolt crank than haviing limited seletion for 4 bolt. can&#8217;t wait for the next round of tech. 2&#215;11 sounds great. to me the big companies would bebefit selling29ers with this gearing to ofset the neg feedback on slow accelarating 29ers. happy trails.</p>
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		<title>By: NR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kilowahn - Do you have experience with this 20/4 stambecco?  I have a Shimano LX crankset.  Any problems with bolts interefering with chain?  I'm hoping shop will ship to USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kilowahn - Do you have experience with this 20/4 stambecco?  I have a Shimano LX crankset.  Any problems with bolts interefering with chain?  I&#8217;m hoping shop will ship to USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, as a fat 29er cyclist could really use a couple fewer teeth every once in a while and I am not ashamed to admit it.  It may be the case that I rarely if ever run out of gears with my 29er on steep climbs, but occasionally I feel like I am experiencing unnecessary fatigue  while gaining no speed advantage.  Why mash like Jan, when you can spin like Lance?  (I can do neither but thought it would be good to illustrate a point.) I am sure many others feel the same way but have been shamed by the "get stronger" crowd.  

Sevo,

I grew up on the front range and lived there most of my adult life, I have ridden most trails there since Manitou bikes were handmade in Green Mountain Falls and get back to the Springs to ride 2 or 3 times a year and while the climbing makes anything I have done in Michigan, Illinois or Wisconsin seem dainty, it is by and large, as you know, middle ring riding for a reasonably strong rider.  I am not sure where near the Springs a two hour climb is, but I have definitely ridden other parts of Colorado, New Mexico, Old Mexico Utah and Arizona that are much, much steeper than what the southern front range has to offer.  If you hit the epics of Central and Western Colorado, you will see very few SSer's and just as few setups without a small ring.  It does not take a weenie to spin a 22 on a 26er let alone a 29er and many riders much much stronger than myself (and I suspect you as well)have done it.  

Calling riders who ride three rings and want more spin out of their niners weenies and suckers makes me raise my eyebrow more than a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, as a fat 29er cyclist could really use a couple fewer teeth every once in a while and I am not ashamed to admit it.  It may be the case that I rarely if ever run out of gears with my 29er on steep climbs, but occasionally I feel like I am experiencing unnecessary fatigue  while gaining no speed advantage.  Why mash like Jan, when you can spin like Lance?  (I can do neither but thought it would be good to illustrate a point.) I am sure many others feel the same way but have been shamed by the &#8220;get stronger&#8221; crowd.  </p>
<p>Sevo,</p>
<p>I grew up on the front range and lived there most of my adult life, I have ridden most trails there since Manitou bikes were handmade in Green Mountain Falls and get back to the Springs to ride 2 or 3 times a year and while the climbing makes anything I have done in Michigan, Illinois or Wisconsin seem dainty, it is by and large, as you know, middle ring riding for a reasonably strong rider.  I am not sure where near the Springs a two hour climb is, but I have definitely ridden other parts of Colorado, New Mexico, Old Mexico Utah and Arizona that are much, much steeper than what the southern front range has to offer.  If you hit the epics of Central and Western Colorado, you will see very few SSer&#8217;s and just as few setups without a small ring.  It does not take a weenie to spin a 22 on a 26er let alone a 29er and many riders much much stronger than myself (and I suspect you as well)have done it.  </p>
<p>Calling riders who ride three rings and want more spin out of their niners weenies and suckers makes me raise my eyebrow more than a little.</p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully someday the mr. whirly will actually materialize, because to-date, i've never actually seen a crank in person.

c'mon surly -- give us mr. whirly!!  we want mr. whirly!!  we need mr. whirly!!  

...MR. WHIRLY, paging MR. WHIRLY, to MG's Dos Niner, STAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully someday the mr. whirly will actually materialize, because to-date, i&#8217;ve never actually seen a crank in person.</p>
<p>c&#8217;mon surly &#8212; give us mr. whirly!!  we want mr. whirly!!  we need mr. whirly!!  </p>
<p>&#8230;MR. WHIRLY, paging MR. WHIRLY, to MG&#8217;s Dos Niner, STAT.</p>
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		<title>By: PROFESSED</title>
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		<dc:creator>PROFESSED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks J UK. 
Your suggestion is an option and is what I currently do with my Afterburners. Its a bit ugly but since I dont have Boone Ti rear cogs ( just good and strong Surley Steel) the looks don't matter that much. 

So if its going to be Middleburn it has to be the sexy UNO or nothing !

Time to get really strong like the big lads posting earlier on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks J UK.<br />
Your suggestion is an option and is what I currently do with my Afterburners. Its a bit ugly but since I dont have Boone Ti rear cogs ( just good and strong Surley Steel) the looks don&#8217;t matter that much. </p>
<p>So if its going to be Middleburn it has to be the sexy UNO or nothing !</p>
<p>Time to get really strong like the big lads posting earlier on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy Uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy Uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Prof you're right but...
Whilst [according to their excellent website www.middleburn.co.uk  ] they do only make a 32 uno ring they make a 29 inner spider and ring which you then bolt a 42 outer to.
Voila! Take off the outer and you have just the 29.
Seeing as they have already done this I think they would look kindly on a 29er specific smaller Uno, or just arrange for the Duo to be sold sans big ring.
Ask them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Prof you&#8217;re right but&#8230;<br />
Whilst [according to their excellent website <a href="http://www.middleburn.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.middleburn.co.uk</a>  ] they do only make a 32 uno ring they make a 29 inner spider and ring which you then bolt a 42 outer to.<br />
Voila! Take off the outer and you have just the 29.<br />
Seeing as they have already done this I think they would look kindly on a 29er specific smaller Uno, or just arrange for the Duo to be sold sans big ring.<br />
Ask them!</p>
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		<title>By: professed</title>
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		<dc:creator>professed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sevo - no need to bring 'back' the 5 arm, there are still plenty of FSA afterburners with 94mmPCD around and I'll hang onto mine until i can get afford a set of Middleburns ! 

Jeremy UK - it is a shame that Middleburn only make their beautifull SS integrated crankset/ring as a 32T when a 30T is what a lot of twentyninersinglespeederophiles want  - if this is wrong please let me know and the saving plan will be ramped up !

Some of us SS riders also like to spin - in an attempt to emulate the efficiency of Contador on a climb -  when you run anything bigger than a 1.9 on the back a 30T:17T is just so much more efficient and effective to ride when racing 2+hrs on a hilly course... The great 'out of the saddle on every incline mash' is ego boosting but not the quickest way for most mere mortals in the end.

And smaller rings are stiffer too (but as Cloxxki says - less efficient - true but who notices that when you have a gritty chain !)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sevo - no need to bring &#8216;back&#8217; the 5 arm, there are still plenty of FSA afterburners with 94mmPCD around and I&#8217;ll hang onto mine until i can get afford a set of Middleburns ! </p>
<p>Jeremy UK - it is a shame that Middleburn only make their beautifull SS integrated crankset/ring as a 32T when a 30T is what a lot of twentyninersinglespeederophiles want  - if this is wrong please let me know and the saving plan will be ramped up !</p>
<p>Some of us SS riders also like to spin - in an attempt to emulate the efficiency of Contador on a climb -  when you run anything bigger than a 1.9 on the back a 30T:17T is just so much more efficient and effective to ride when racing 2+hrs on a hilly course&#8230; The great &#8216;out of the saddle on every incline mash&#8217; is ego boosting but not the quickest way for most mere mortals in the end.</p>
<p>And smaller rings are stiffer too (but as Cloxxki says - less efficient - true but who notices that when you have a gritty chain !)</p>
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		<title>By: kilowahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kilowahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20/4 Stambecco - 20t granny  for CompactDrive as Shimano XTR FC-M960 and 970 ,Shimano XT and LX, FSA, RaceFace, Truvativ  etc.

http://www.mountain-goat.de/pd2123563470.htm?categoryId=1

sorry - shop is in german - but i'm shure theres a shop in your country too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20/4 Stambecco - 20t granny  for CompactDrive as Shimano XTR FC-M960 and 970 ,Shimano XT and LX, FSA, RaceFace, Truvativ  etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mountain-goat.de/pd2123563470.htm?categoryId=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.mountain-goat.de/pd2123563470.htm?categoryId=1</a></p>
<p>sorry - shop is in german - but i&#8217;m shure theres a shop in your country too <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer a few other posters here, the 20T granny does not fit on current 4 arm crank set BCD's without modification, a special chain ring, or at all. And has been said, a 29T middle ring or a 30T for that matter, won't fit most of these cranks either. 

Yes, 94/58 BCD cranks are out there, and yes- the upcoming Mr. Whirly cranks promise to be a hot seller. My take is that most of the choices offered here are either square taper, which has its drawbacks, or as in the case of the Surly crank, are do-it-all cranks that are going to be very spendy. 

I think what lots of folks would love to see is a two piece crank from Shimano that recieves wide OEM spec, is supported by the vast majority of IBD's and online shops, and has a 94/58 BCD. Also adding in the availability of chainring sizes to suit any riders needs. If Shimano, Truvativ, FSA, or another manufacturer would step up to the plate here with a reasonably priced and widely available unit like this, I think we'd hear the end of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer a few other posters here, the 20T granny does not fit on current 4 arm crank set BCD&#8217;s without modification, a special chain ring, or at all. And has been said, a 29T middle ring or a 30T for that matter, won&#8217;t fit most of these cranks either. </p>
<p>Yes, 94/58 BCD cranks are out there, and yes- the upcoming Mr. Whirly cranks promise to be a hot seller. My take is that most of the choices offered here are either square taper, which has its drawbacks, or as in the case of the Surly crank, are do-it-all cranks that are going to be very spendy. </p>
<p>I think what lots of folks would love to see is a two piece crank from Shimano that recieves wide OEM spec, is supported by the vast majority of IBD&#8217;s and online shops, and has a 94/58 BCD. Also adding in the availability of chainring sizes to suit any riders needs. If Shimano, Truvativ, FSA, or another manufacturer would step up to the plate here with a reasonably priced and widely available unit like this, I think we&#8217;d hear the end of this.</p>
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