Comments on: WTB ‘08 29″er Tires: First Impressions- Stout 29″er

By: Desert9r

Desert9r — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:34:35 +0000

for the cold weather I have converted my XXIX to an Urban Hauler/Grocery Getter(f-38c x r-2.3), I like the Exi’s for urban use, Except the weight(900g), any suggestions?

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:27:08 +0000

Desert9r: Yeah, the new Conti Mountain King 2.4″ (Beware: Suffers from Contis over optimistic measurements- it’s really a 2.1″) Also the new Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4″ (Beware: Suffers from the opposite problem. May not fit your frame!) We’ll be getting our hands on the Racing Ralphs anyday now. Stay tuned!

By: Desert9r

Desert9r — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:06:40 +0000

Sounds like my kinda tire, but 1100, the 900g Exi’s are slugs, ID hate to pedal 1100!

BTW, are there any other 2.3+ other than the Exi, Weir or Stout?

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:48:25 +0000

Kosmo: While I can not compare rear pressures, I can give you a front comparison. I ran a Rampage on the front of my rigid Stout at 25psi just the other day. First of all it didn’t have anywhere near the confidence inspiring grip of the Stout and I wouldn’t have been able to dump much if any more pressure out of it either. The Stout, on the other hand felt more like suspension, had gobs more grip, and I can go lower on the pressure yet. Probably in the upper teens. This is with tubes as well.

We are going to be getting a couple of the Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4’s in any day now. These are the tires I feel will be more directly comparable to the Rampage, and as a matter of fact, that’s exacatly what we have in mind to do.

By: Kosmo

Kosmo — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:43:23 +0000

Intriguing tire. You said you ended up at about 22 psi in back. For comparison purposes, I’m curious what pressure you would have run in a Rampage under similar conditions.

By: Dirt McGirt

Dirt McGirt — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:37:28 +0000

Great review! I’ll have to check these out and see what works in the Great Pacific NW

By: Guitar Ted

Guitar Ted — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:56:06 +0000

Desert9r: If you are running single speed or 1 x something, you’d be fine. It’s the front derailluer that is at issue with the Raleigh.

Cloxxki: You know well how many are trying to use the Rampage as an all mountain/free ride tire and are perhaps having issues with weak sidewalls. Well, the Stout has sidewalls that are beefier than the Rampage, which I have examples of here to compare with. The Rampage is undoubtedly a faster/less rolling resistance type of tire. The Stout makes no apologies for ultimate grip, toughness, and durability. The weight tells the story here. Stout = 1100 grams each. It is a tire that you beat on, run at super low pressure, and in severe conditions, in my mind. Not for the weak of heart!

I can not recommend that anyone run a Stout tubeless, but as you know, folks will. I suspect that pressures that have been previously unheard of for 29″ers will be used once somebody tries this. I have run Weir Wolf LT’s at 22psi before, but that was on ice over pavement, not off road. I wouldn’t have dreamt of doing that, until last weekend where I did just that on WW LT’s. This makes me think that I can get into the teens with the Stout and not see any detrimental effects. This is with a tube, and myself at 240lbs.

By: Cloxxki

Cloxxki — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:52:10 +0000

GT, would this be a Rampage challenger, or a tire with different purposes in mind?
Either way, I’d love to hear how this compares to the Rampage so many riders know, and love.

By: Desert9r

Desert9r — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:38:25 +0000

Thanks for the info, I was interested, but since I have an XXIX, I think I will pass.