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	<title>Comments on: Haro and the 650b</title>
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		<title>By: odis</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-38906</link>
		<dc:creator>odis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bike nerds.</description>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23424</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if Dave Turner is getting on board it must be a good thing! Before you know it, Trek and Cannondale will be offering a &quot;B&quot; bike! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Dave Turner is getting on board it must be a good thing! Before you know it, Trek and Cannondale will be offering a &#8220;B&#8221; bike! <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23365</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bloody tongue: Dave turner is playing with them too. Look for a bike from him soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloody tongue: Dave turner is playing with them too. Look for a bike from him soon!</p>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23364</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Haro seems poised to go all the way with this wheel size. Talk about an early adopter!

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&amp;postcount=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; Haro seems poised to go all the way with this wheel size. Talk about an early adopter!</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&amp;postcount=1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&amp;postcount=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23143</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take off the gears and suspension and that bike would be sweet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take off the gears and suspension and that bike would be sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23136</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm............thanks Bloddy Tongue for that. Seems I can write the same thing and yet nobody gets it. Maybe I should resign and let Bloody Tongue have my job! :)

jb and Cloxxki make a point to consider: That being the closeness in diameter between a really fat 26 inch tire/wheel and a Neo-Moto mounted to a Velocity Blunt in 650B. In between size indeed! More like a slight difference, albeit to the positive side.

And I hesitate to answer another question from Quinn here, as we don&#039;t seem to be able to communicate well. (I may need assistance Bloody Tongue!) but here goes......

Kirk Pacenti himself dubbed his Neo-Moto tire in 650B a &quot;27.5&quot; or 27five. (It comes out to about that diameter with a Neo-Moto. ) He then decided to go back to calling it a 650B. No reason really has been given for the switch that I have read. 

And to tag on to what Sean has written on the WTB treaded 650B tires: Those were &quot;frankentires&quot; made by Kirk himself to show the idea at the North American Handmade Bicycle Show before his Neo-Motos were available. Kirk cut apart a 29&quot;er Nanoraptor to make those, as I recall. Those were not a WTB produced proto-type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;thanks Bloddy Tongue for that. Seems I can write the same thing and yet nobody gets it. Maybe I should resign and let Bloody Tongue have my job! <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>jb and Cloxxki make a point to consider: That being the closeness in diameter between a really fat 26 inch tire/wheel and a Neo-Moto mounted to a Velocity Blunt in 650B. In between size indeed! More like a slight difference, albeit to the positive side.</p>
<p>And I hesitate to answer another question from Quinn here, as we don&#8217;t seem to be able to communicate well. (I may need assistance Bloody Tongue!) but here goes&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Kirk Pacenti himself dubbed his Neo-Moto tire in 650B a &#8220;27.5&#8243; or 27five. (It comes out to about that diameter with a Neo-Moto. ) He then decided to go back to calling it a 650B. No reason really has been given for the switch that I have read. </p>
<p>And to tag on to what Sean has written on the WTB treaded 650B tires: Those were &#8220;frankentires&#8221; made by Kirk himself to show the idea at the North American Handmade Bicycle Show before his Neo-Motos were available. Kirk cut apart a 29&#8243;er Nanoraptor to make those, as I recall. Those were not a WTB produced proto-type.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23120</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any fat-tire-ready 26&quot; er will take the 650B&#039;s with moderate tire width. The difference is only 40% that between 26&quot;and 29&quot;. BB will rise only 0.5&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fat-tire-ready 26&#8243; er will take the 650B&#8217;s with moderate tire width. The difference is only 40% that between 26&#8243;and 29&#8243;. BB will rise only 0.5&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean350</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean350</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quinn,
Not sure if you missed it regarding the knobby tire, but Kirk Pacenti had Panaracer make a knobby tire to fit on a 650b rim (now called the &quot;Neo-Moto&quot;).  There was a (WTB, I think) prototype a while back that appeared to be a 26&quot; tread glued to a 650b casing.

Anyhow, to continue what bloody tongue wrote, check this out:
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso
-Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quinn,<br />
Not sure if you missed it regarding the knobby tire, but Kirk Pacenti had Panaracer make a knobby tire to fit on a 650b rim (now called the &#8220;Neo-Moto&#8221;).  There was a (WTB, I think) prototype a while back that appeared to be a 26&#8243; tread glued to a 650b casing.</p>
<p>Anyhow, to continue what bloody tongue wrote, check this out:<br />
<a href="http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso" rel="nofollow">http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso</a><br />
-Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23106</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you bloody tongue, I will remember those numbers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you bloody tongue, I will remember those numbers!</p>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/comment-page-1/#comment-23105</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26&quot; = ISO 559

650B = ISO 584

29&#039;er = 700c = ISO 622

That is as clear as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26&#8243; = ISO 559</p>
<p>650B = ISO 584</p>
<p>29&#8242;er = 700c = ISO 622</p>
<p>That is as clear as it gets.</p>
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