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	<title>Comments on: Haro and the 650b</title>
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		<title>By: odis</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-38906</link>
		<dc:creator>odis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bike nerds.</description>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23424</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if Dave Turner is getting on board it must be a good thing! Before you know it, Trek and Cannondale will be offering a "B" bike! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Dave Turner is getting on board it must be a good thing! Before you know it, Trek and Cannondale will be offering a &#8220;B&#8221; bike! <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23365</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bloody tongue: Dave turner is playing with them too. Look for a bike from him soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloody tongue: Dave turner is playing with them too. Look for a bike from him soon!</p>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23364</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Haro seems poised to go all the way with this wheel size. Talk about an early adopter!

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&#38;postcount=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; Haro seems poised to go all the way with this wheel size. Talk about an early adopter!</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&amp;postcount=1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3541657&amp;postcount=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23143</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take off the gears and suspension and that bike would be sweet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take off the gears and suspension and that bike would be sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23136</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm............thanks Bloddy Tongue for that. Seems I can write the same thing and yet nobody gets it. Maybe I should resign and let Bloody Tongue have my job! :)

jb and Cloxxki make a point to consider: That being the closeness in diameter between a really fat 26 inch tire/wheel and a Neo-Moto mounted to a Velocity Blunt in 650B. In between size indeed! More like a slight difference, albeit to the positive side.

And I hesitate to answer another question from Quinn here, as we don't seem to be able to communicate well. (I may need assistance Bloody Tongue!) but here goes......

Kirk Pacenti himself dubbed his Neo-Moto tire in 650B a "27.5" or 27five. (It comes out to about that diameter with a Neo-Moto. ) He then decided to go back to calling it a 650B. No reason really has been given for the switch that I have read. 

And to tag on to what Sean has written on the WTB treaded 650B tires: Those were "frankentires" made by Kirk himself to show the idea at the North American Handmade Bicycle Show before his Neo-Motos were available. Kirk cut apart a 29"er Nanoraptor to make those, as I recall. Those were not a WTB produced proto-type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;thanks Bloddy Tongue for that. Seems I can write the same thing and yet nobody gets it. Maybe I should resign and let Bloody Tongue have my job! <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>jb and Cloxxki make a point to consider: That being the closeness in diameter between a really fat 26 inch tire/wheel and a Neo-Moto mounted to a Velocity Blunt in 650B. In between size indeed! More like a slight difference, albeit to the positive side.</p>
<p>And I hesitate to answer another question from Quinn here, as we don&#8217;t seem to be able to communicate well. (I may need assistance Bloody Tongue!) but here goes&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Kirk Pacenti himself dubbed his Neo-Moto tire in 650B a &#8220;27.5&#8243; or 27five. (It comes out to about that diameter with a Neo-Moto. ) He then decided to go back to calling it a 650B. No reason really has been given for the switch that I have read. </p>
<p>And to tag on to what Sean has written on the WTB treaded 650B tires: Those were &#8220;frankentires&#8221; made by Kirk himself to show the idea at the North American Handmade Bicycle Show before his Neo-Motos were available. Kirk cut apart a 29&#8243;er Nanoraptor to make those, as I recall. Those were not a WTB produced proto-type.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23120</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any fat-tire-ready 26" er will take the 650B's with moderate tire width. The difference is only 40% that between 26"and 29". BB will rise only 0.5".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fat-tire-ready 26&#8243; er will take the 650B&#8217;s with moderate tire width. The difference is only 40% that between 26&#8243;and 29&#8243;. BB will rise only 0.5&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean350</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean350</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quinn,
Not sure if you missed it regarding the knobby tire, but Kirk Pacenti had Panaracer make a knobby tire to fit on a 650b rim (now called the "Neo-Moto").  There was a (WTB, I think) prototype a while back that appeared to be a 26" tread glued to a 650b casing.

Anyhow, to continue what bloody tongue wrote, check this out:
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso
-Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quinn,<br />
Not sure if you missed it regarding the knobby tire, but Kirk Pacenti had Panaracer make a knobby tire to fit on a 650b rim (now called the &#8220;Neo-Moto&#8221;).  There was a (WTB, I think) prototype a while back that appeared to be a 26&#8243; tread glued to a 650b casing.</p>
<p>Anyhow, to continue what bloody tongue wrote, check this out:<br />
<a href="http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso" rel="nofollow">http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#iso</a><br />
-Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23106</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you bloody tongue, I will remember those numbers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you bloody tongue, I will remember those numbers!</p>
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		<title>By: bloody tongue</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/09/16/haro-and-the-650b/#comment-23105</link>
		<dc:creator>bloody tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26" = ISO 559

650B = ISO 584

29'er = 700c = ISO 622

That is as clear as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26&#8243; = ISO 559</p>
<p>650B = ISO 584</p>
<p>29&#8242;er = 700c = ISO 622</p>
<p>That is as clear as it gets.</p>
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