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	<title>Comments on: Update: NoTubes.com ZTR ARCH 29er Hope Pro II Disc Wheelset</title>
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		<title>By: Technical Glitch: You may have missed this review&#8230; &#124; Twenty Nine Inches</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/06/20/update-notubescom-ztr-arch-29er-hope-pro-ii-disc-wheelset/#comment-34113</link>
		<dc:creator>Technical Glitch: You may have missed this review&#8230; &#124; Twenty Nine Inches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: NoTubes.com ZTR ARCH 29er Hope Pro II Disc Wheelset First Impression: NoTubes.com ZTR ARCH 29er Hope Pro II Disc Wheelset [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run (ran) Arch 29ers on a cannondale lefty hardtail w/ Ignitor tires going tubless and loved the combination. I did ocassionally experience the spoke windup and pinging, and spokes did get loose with hard rocky riding and needed tending, but not much worse than my mavic 819s 26ers. But otherwise I was happy with these light rims which shaved pounds off the stock build. The current build of my Caffeine F29 is light with Magura Martas, X9s and carbon this and that. 

But on a fast downhill section of the XC course at Mt Snow Nats this month I hit a jump face pretty hard (actually a mogul on a ski slope) and Taco-ed the front rim causing a pretty major crash and a dnf.  Now Im no 140 lbs,  but im thinking these rims may be too light for such hard xc riding at my size. Anybody else experience arch tacos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run (ran) Arch 29ers on a cannondale lefty hardtail w/ Ignitor tires going tubless and loved the combination. I did ocassionally experience the spoke windup and pinging, and spokes did get loose with hard rocky riding and needed tending, but not much worse than my mavic 819s 26ers. But otherwise I was happy with these light rims which shaved pounds off the stock build. The current build of my Caffeine F29 is light with Magura Martas, X9s and carbon this and that. </p>
<p>But on a fast downhill section of the XC course at Mt Snow Nats this month I hit a jump face pretty hard (actually a mogul on a ski slope) and Taco-ed the front rim causing a pretty major crash and a dnf.  Now Im no 140 lbs,  but im thinking these rims may be too light for such hard xc riding at my size. Anybody else experience arch tacos?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/06/20/update-notubescom-ztr-arch-29er-hope-pro-ii-disc-wheelset/#comment-17429</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got my Arch 29rs with 07 XTR hubs (anti-exotic I know)

Mounted up some Kenda Small Block 8s with Stans, didn't even need soapy water to get that snapping sound when airing them up.  They leaked out some air on the first ride but after that they are holding air like champs.

Lost a cool pound over my Bontrager Race wheels that came on the bike.  They were heavy and had a beefy steel cog set that wasn't even close to being light.

Bottom line is:  Steering much quicker.  Climbing much better and able to go up a gear faster.  Pedals much lighter.

Impressed to say the least.  Now just have to figure out the magic air pressures for these tires, still running a little hard and skates in dusty/sandy conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my Arch 29rs with 07 XTR hubs (anti-exotic I know)</p>
<p>Mounted up some Kenda Small Block 8s with Stans, didn&#8217;t even need soapy water to get that snapping sound when airing them up.  They leaked out some air on the first ride but after that they are holding air like champs.</p>
<p>Lost a cool pound over my Bontrager Race wheels that came on the bike.  They were heavy and had a beefy steel cog set that wasn&#8217;t even close to being light.</p>
<p>Bottom line is:  Steering much quicker.  Climbing much better and able to go up a gear faster.  Pedals much lighter.</p>
<p>Impressed to say the least.  Now just have to figure out the magic air pressures for these tires, still running a little hard and skates in dusty/sandy conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreg, 

I believe you have hit it just about right. 

Thanks for the comments everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreg, </p>
<p>I believe you have hit it just about right. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents.

I have  the same rims laced to Hope Pro II front hub and DT Swiss 240 rear hub. Used Dt Swiss Comp spokes (and some Dt Swiss Champion on the rear driveside just to make them a bit beefier) and can report no spoke windup, creaks, not even a click when hurtling over all types of rocky crap. I don't know if the spokes I used are stronger than the ones used by Jake and that's why our experiences with the wheels have differed, but if your thinking of buying these rims, I wouldn't skimp and use super-uber light spokes unless you're hardcore XC'er and every atom counts.

These puppies are still light (1850g for the pair) and so far have been bombproof.

The only problem I've had is that some tires can be a bit of a chore to get on and off, but that's not really an issue, just a pain with lots of tubeless rims, plus I'm lazy and hate changing tires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents.</p>
<p>I have  the same rims laced to Hope Pro II front hub and DT Swiss 240 rear hub. Used Dt Swiss Comp spokes (and some Dt Swiss Champion on the rear driveside just to make them a bit beefier) and can report no spoke windup, creaks, not even a click when hurtling over all types of rocky crap. I don&#8217;t know if the spokes I used are stronger than the ones used by Jake and that&#8217;s why our experiences with the wheels have differed, but if your thinking of buying these rims, I wouldn&#8217;t skimp and use super-uber light spokes unless you&#8217;re hardcore XC&#8217;er and every atom counts.</p>
<p>These puppies are still light (1850g for the pair) and so far have been bombproof.</p>
<p>The only problem I&#8217;ve had is that some tires can be a bit of a chore to get on and off, but that&#8217;s not really an issue, just a pain with lots of tubeless rims, plus I&#8217;m lazy and hate changing tires.</p>
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		<title>By: George Krpan</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Krpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>857g front and 965g rear, 1822g total, and you at 146 pounds feel they may be too light.
That just goes to show that a 1800 gram wheelset IS light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>857g front and 965g rear, 1822g total, and you at 146 pounds feel they may be too light.<br />
That just goes to show that a 1800 gram wheelset IS light.</p>
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