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	<title>Comments on: Specialized Plans Confirmed On 29&#8243;ers</title>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/14/specialized-plans-confirmed-on-29ers/comment-page-1/#comment-15503</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 19:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No no no no no!
They have a very new secret geometry, haven&#039;t you heard? The best bike company spent years developing this, don&#039;t you humble shop rat think you know it all :-)

The short rear ends (Origin 8 Scout will have 425mm) don&#039;t seem to intrigue me. I want them, and I do not want them.

Time for some extensive long vs short chainstay shoot-out. Hurray for the singlespeeds.

Also, a 23&quot; specialized frame should be pretty big fitting. A good thing for the megaclydes out there that still have little choice. 
Especially if Sp don&#039;t follow the long-offset, short top tube stream. Let&#039;s just hope they don&#039;t spec these bikes like most do with road bikes : ever steeper HTA&#039;s on larger frames, only because it&#039;s technically possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No no no no no!<br />
They have a very new secret geometry, haven&#8217;t you heard? The best bike company spent years developing this, don&#8217;t you humble shop rat think you know it all <img src='http://twentynineinches.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The short rear ends (Origin 8 Scout will have 425mm) don&#8217;t seem to intrigue me. I want them, and I do not want them.</p>
<p>Time for some extensive long vs short chainstay shoot-out. Hurray for the singlespeeds.</p>
<p>Also, a 23&#8243; specialized frame should be pretty big fitting. A good thing for the megaclydes out there that still have little choice.<br />
Especially if Sp don&#8217;t follow the long-offset, short top tube stream. Let&#8217;s just hope they don&#8217;t spec these bikes like most do with road bikes : ever steeper HTA&#8217;s on larger frames, only because it&#8217;s technically possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/14/specialized-plans-confirmed-on-29ers/comment-page-1/#comment-15471</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 01:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael: I didn&#039;t see the geometry charts on these bikes but they are using the Tora 29&quot;er and the new Dart 29&quot;er from Rock Shox, so I&#039;m guessing the head angle is about 71.5-72 degrees and the fork offset to be about 38mm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael: I didn&#8217;t see the geometry charts on these bikes but they are using the Tora 29&#8243;er and the new Dart 29&#8243;er from Rock Shox, so I&#8217;m guessing the head angle is about 71.5-72 degrees and the fork offset to be about 38mm.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 17:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any news on what fork offset and head tube angle they&#039;re using, yet?</description>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/14/specialized-plans-confirmed-on-29ers/comment-page-1/#comment-15443</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet if a big company commited, they could make affordable wheels that are also light. It just takes a bit more effort, but the quantities would be there.

What&#039;s a tricross?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet if a big company commited, they could make affordable wheels that are also light. It just takes a bit more effort, but the quantities would be there.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s a tricross?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...just saw the Specialized 08 Dealer Preview book the other day. The three hardtails are there is all their glory, along with some other cool entries including a singlespeed tricross! 

I think the only reason there is a crappy suspension fork on any bikes is because the bikes at Wal- Crap have them and if a $200 bike has them, the $650 better too in order to appease the masses who don&#039;t really know the total difference. Seems silly for us, but then again we&#039;re posting on a dedicated 29er mountain bike site! I do agree with upgraded wheels...I hate heavy wheels with crappy hubs that can&#039;t handle off road trails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;just saw the Specialized 08 Dealer Preview book the other day. The three hardtails are there is all their glory, along with some other cool entries including a singlespeed tricross! </p>
<p>I think the only reason there is a crappy suspension fork on any bikes is because the bikes at Wal- Crap have them and if a $200 bike has them, the $650 better too in order to appease the masses who don&#8217;t really know the total difference. Seems silly for us, but then again we&#8217;re posting on a dedicated 29er mountain bike site! I do agree with upgraded wheels&#8230;I hate heavy wheels with crappy hubs that can&#8217;t handle off road trails.</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitar Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 12:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Krpan: That&#039;s a great idea. The companies doing such a model could upsepec the wheels instead, which would be a far smarter thing to do when it comes to a 29&quot;er than having the suspended front end. Especially for the upcoming Rockhopper and Diamondback Overdrive, both bikes to be about $650.00.

Cloxx: And in referance to that 5&quot; travel 29&#039;er, I wonder if it&#039;ll have the home grown Specialized suspension fork/damper. I&#039;m betting it does and that will kill the &quot;semi-affordable&quot; part of it right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Krpan: That&#8217;s a great idea. The companies doing such a model could upsepec the wheels instead, which would be a far smarter thing to do when it comes to a 29&#8243;er than having the suspended front end. Especially for the upcoming Rockhopper and Diamondback Overdrive, both bikes to be about $650.00.</p>
<p>Cloxx: And in referance to that 5&#8243; travel 29&#8242;er, I wonder if it&#8217;ll have the home grown Specialized suspension fork/damper. I&#8217;m betting it does and that will kill the &#8220;semi-affordable&#8221; part of it right there.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloxxki</title>
		<link>http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/14/specialized-plans-confirmed-on-29ers/comment-page-1/#comment-15397</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloxxki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, how about a steel one, like in their (to me) good days?

Seriously, it&#039;s good to see a big company is hitting the 29&quot; market with something else than a half-assed entry. No 2 years on a sole SS model to test the waters (like that&#039;s ever realistic). Cheap, bling, hardtail, FS, doing their thing with it, claiming market share from the get-go, if they can intrigue enough 29&quot; newbies.
Those will like the short chainstay argument, although for rolling XC I&#039;m getting more and more warmed up to really long CS&#039;s myself. Tested it on my horizontal dropout Redline once, and 464mm rode great. Note to self : when buying a new chain and chainring, use 2 powerlinks from the get-go so I can switch!

Would Sp dare to make a semi-afordable 5&quot; bike right away? That would make them marketLEADER early on in that segment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, how about a steel one, like in their (to me) good days?</p>
<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s good to see a big company is hitting the 29&#8243; market with something else than a half-assed entry. No 2 years on a sole SS model to test the waters (like that&#8217;s ever realistic). Cheap, bling, hardtail, FS, doing their thing with it, claiming market share from the get-go, if they can intrigue enough 29&#8243; newbies.<br />
Those will like the short chainstay argument, although for rolling XC I&#8217;m getting more and more warmed up to really long CS&#8217;s myself. Tested it on my horizontal dropout Redline once, and 464mm rode great. Note to self : when buying a new chain and chainring, use 2 powerlinks from the get-go so I can switch!</p>
<p>Would Sp dare to make a semi-afordable 5&#8243; bike right away? That would make them marketLEADER early on in that segment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: George Krpan</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Krpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 23:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope that they have a geared rigid model.  Have you noticed that no one makes one?  I&#039;d rather have a rigid cheap bike than one with a really cheesy, heavy suspension fork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope that they have a geared rigid model.  Have you noticed that no one makes one?  I&#8217;d rather have a rigid cheap bike than one with a really cheesy, heavy suspension fork.</p>
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