Comments on: Motobecane “Outcast” 29″er http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/ 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:21:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: brokenspoke http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-45349 brokenspoke Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:26:23 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-45349 I have had great luck w/ mine. No problems at all. Very sturdy and well built. Ride mostly street and loggingt roads and this is perfect. I have had great luck w/ mine. No problems at all. Very sturdy and well built.
Ride mostly street and loggingt roads and this is perfect.

]]> By: MIxed Greens http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-44000 MIxed Greens Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:53:20 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-44000 i bought one cause i wanted a SS to beat the piss out of like a giant BMX. i had no idea what to expect from a 29er, it's really fun, but hard to throw around. i guess they're made more to be a trail bike than an urban assault type bike. for the first month i kept gearing stock and found it to be a great commuter, and very fun bar-hopper. the bike is really fast once you get going, really keeps up with city traffic, though the tires sound like i'm riding a monster truck. i decided to go with a smaller chainring and now i'm having much more fun on trails and climbs (and wheelies, haha). Overall i like the bike, though i think i maybe shouldve went with a 26" SS. i bought one cause i wanted a SS to beat the piss out of like a giant BMX. i had no idea what to expect from a 29er, it’s really fun, but hard to throw around. i guess they’re made more to be a trail bike than an urban assault type bike. for the first month i kept gearing stock and found it to be a great commuter, and very fun bar-hopper. the bike is really fast once you get going, really keeps up with city traffic, though the tires sound like i’m riding a monster truck. i decided to go with a smaller chainring and now i’m having much more fun on trails and climbs (and wheelies, haha). Overall i like the bike, though i think i maybe shouldve went with a 26″ SS.

]]> By: Jim http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-43997 Jim Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:37:28 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-43997 I have had an Outcast for about 6 weeks. All has gone well and I would highly recommend the bike. I am 6' tall and weigh 210. Ride mostly hard pack trails and street. Nothing too steep or too rough. The only changes made have been, a 21 tooth free wheel (same chain length), and some Mary style bars. All else is stock and working fine. I have had an Outcast for about 6 weeks.
All has gone well and I would highly recommend the bike.
I am 6′ tall and weigh 210.
Ride mostly hard pack trails and street. Nothing too steep or too rough.
The only changes made have been, a 21 tooth free wheel (same chain length),
and some Mary style bars.
All else is stock and working fine.

]]> By: john http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-41407 john Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:48:00 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-41407 anyone who is claiming that this bike is worse because it comes through the mail or from taiwan is a sucker. anyone who is claiming that this bike is worse because it comes through the mail or from taiwan is a sucker.

]]> By: Pierre Rousseau http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-41356 Pierre Rousseau Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:52:26 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-41356 Guitar Ted, I love axe-grinders. They know something is terribly wrong anyway. Le'me tell you what. I just bought a 19" Motobecane Outcast 29 for my retired 4 years ago at 46 6'2, 270 lb. Should arrive any moment. I've set up camp at my front door in ambush of Brown. O, my other website is http://www.pbase.com/pierresphotography Guitar Ted,

I love axe-grinders. They know something is terribly wrong anyway. Le’me tell you what.

I just bought a 19″ Motobecane Outcast 29 for my retired 4 years ago at 46 6′2, 270 lb. Should arrive any moment. I’ve set up camp at my front door in ambush of Brown.

O, my other website is http://www.pbase.com/pierresphotography

]]> By: Patrick http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-39755 Patrick Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:36 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-39755 So for a guy 6' 1" at 230 pounds who only wants to ride up and down the street or hit an occasional trail, would this bike work? Yay or Nay? Also could I get away with doing NO UPGRADES? Just climb and ride a couple of times a week? Yay or Nay? Yeah I'm a simple and cheap bastard. LOL. So for a guy 6′ 1″ at 230 pounds who only wants to ride up and down the street or hit an occasional trail, would this bike work?

Yay or Nay?

Also could I get away with doing NO UPGRADES? Just climb and ride a couple of times a week?

Yay or Nay?

Yeah I’m a simple and cheap bastard. LOL.

]]> By: Christopher http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-39618 Christopher Mon, 19 May 2008 14:22:00 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-39618 I bought this bike through eBay used for around $200, I've spent around $200 in upgrades so far and I'm rather impressed by its performance. It is true that most of the components are lower end, but even without any upgrades this bike performed exactly as I expected it to. I think that's the issue, you do get what you pay for, but with the comparative price ranges of other ss 29ers you suspect at this price that something must be wrong. The one complaint I do have is, as with most bikes without any upgrading, that the components didn't fit my body type. Through some bargain shopping I was able to upgrade the essentials and feel very comfortable and trustworthy of the bikes performance. I use the bike for trails ranging in difficulty and even with the stock components I was able to maneuver various obstacles ranging from drop offs to sand without any trouble. The main complaint I hear is the lack of disc brake capability, but I think the point of this bike is a simplistic, entry level all-around ride. If you go into the situation knowing what you want out of a bike, you can definitely justify just how fun and affordable the Outcast is. I bought this bike through eBay used for around $200, I’ve spent around $200 in upgrades so far and I’m rather impressed by its performance. It is true that most of the components are lower end, but even without any upgrades this bike performed exactly as I expected it to. I think that’s the issue, you do get what you pay for, but with the comparative price ranges of other ss 29ers you suspect at this price that something must be wrong.

The one complaint I do have is, as with most bikes without any upgrading, that the components didn’t fit my body type. Through some bargain shopping I was able to upgrade the essentials and feel very comfortable and trustworthy of the bikes performance.

I use the bike for trails ranging in difficulty and even with the stock components I was able to maneuver various obstacles ranging from drop offs to sand without any trouble.

The main complaint I hear is the lack of disc brake capability, but I think the point of this bike is a simplistic, entry level all-around ride. If you go into the situation knowing what you want out of a bike, you can definitely justify just how fun and affordable the Outcast is.

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37761 Guitar Ted Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:32:42 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37761 Mr. Paine: Hmm......and if anyone doesn't think you have an axe to grind after reading that rant, they truly are a fool. ;) Mr. Paine: Hmm……and if anyone doesn’t think you have an axe to grind after reading that rant, they truly are a fool. ;)

]]> By: Mr. Paine http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37750 Mr. Paine Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:32:21 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37750 All of the companies mass producing these bikes have the frames made in Taiwan. If you think there's a difference (beyond geometry, or style of dropout, or some such triviality) you've been made to play the fool and taken to it. The entire concept is nothing more than a means to prevent the deflation of retail prices (as are the annual changes to componentry, or the adoption of external bearings, or internal headsets). Maintaining the price point for bikes and components at the highest possible point is the entire point of model introductions and name changes and all the fiddly bell ringing that keeps people thinking that they must ride the gear lenghth or component setup the retailer bolts on to the frame. Not a single cartridge bearing is manufactured in the US - not one. But every year for the last seven years the companies have found a way to cause an upward change in the price of a bike by little more than using a bearing of a few millimeters greater diameter. The whole concept of the 29er was adopted as a mass product launch because ofthe retail failure of the cyclocross concept. Market share is was brought us this bike (mtb's sell better than road bikes (with or with knobby tires)). We should be celebrating a bike that costs less than $400. Hell the 29er (also known as 700cc) wheelset costs more than half of that alone. In the end it's all just a dumb game to keep consumers worrying about what to buy, and how often to replace, rather than doing their own maintenance and learning that bike technology in 2008 is no more complicated than it was in 1908. PS - BIKE CHAINS DO NOT STRETCH - EVER - AT ALL. All of the companies mass producing these bikes have the frames made in Taiwan. If you think there’s a difference (beyond geometry, or style of dropout, or some such triviality) you’ve been made to play the fool and taken to it. The entire concept is nothing more than a means to prevent the deflation of retail prices (as are the annual changes to componentry, or the adoption of external bearings, or internal headsets). Maintaining the price point for bikes and components at the highest possible point is the entire point of model introductions and name changes and all the fiddly bell ringing that keeps people thinking that they must ride the gear lenghth or component setup the retailer bolts on to the frame.

Not a single cartridge bearing is manufactured in the US - not one. But every year for the last seven years the companies have found a way to cause an upward change in the price of a bike by little more than using a bearing of a few millimeters greater diameter.

The whole concept of the 29er was adopted as a mass product launch because ofthe retail failure of the cyclocross concept. Market share is was brought us this bike (mtb’s sell better than road bikes (with or with knobby tires)).

We should be celebrating a bike that costs less than $400. Hell the 29er (also known as 700cc) wheelset costs more than half of that alone.

In the end it’s all just a dumb game to keep consumers worrying about what to buy, and how often to replace, rather than doing their own maintenance and learning that bike technology in 2008 is no more complicated than it was in 1908.

PS - BIKE CHAINS DO NOT STRETCH - EVER - AT ALL.

]]> By: mrimpacto http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37177 mrimpacto Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:50:03 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/05/02/motobecane-outcast-29er/#comment-37177 P.S. At 250 pounds, putting the bike on a crash diet wont do much good no matter what. P.S. At 250 pounds, putting the bike on a crash diet wont do much good no matter what.

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