Comments on: Fork Confusion http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/ 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:13:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: George Krpan http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14424 George Krpan Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:17:19 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14424 Yeah, I totally believe you. My assessment is a very general statement and could be viewed as an oversimplification. Yeah, I totally believe you. My assessment is a very general statement and could be viewed as an oversimplification.

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14423 Guitar Ted Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:11:03 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14423 George Krpan: (quote) "Bikes with a 72 degree HTA are OK with the old offset. Putting on a fork with the new offset would make them too steep." (unquote) George, you have to ride an One One 29"er with the Superlight fork and get back to us on that one! (72 degree head angle/47mm offset) Many would disagree with your asesment there. It all depends upon your riding style and terrain. Spice to taste! George Krpan: (quote) “Bikes with a 72 degree HTA are OK with the old offset. Putting on a fork with the new offset would make them too steep.” (unquote)

George, you have to ride an One One 29″er with the Superlight fork and get back to us on that one! (72 degree head angle/47mm offset) Many would disagree with your asesment there.

It all depends upon your riding style and terrain. Spice to taste!

]]> By: George Krpan http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14421 George Krpan Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:16:51 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14421 Bikes with a 71 degree HTA and a fork with the old offset are slacker than their 26er brethren. Putting on a fork with the new offset would correct this. Bikes with a 72 degree HTA are OK with the old offset. Putting on a fork with the new offset would make them too steep. The wheelbase doesn't change. The fork crown comes forward but the wheel stays in the same place. In other words, the angle of the fork legs gets steeper. The new Minute 29 will be available in both the old and new offsets. "First wave" 29ers will be able to buy a new fork without screwing up the handling and people with slow turning 29ers will be able to fix that. Bikes with a 71 degree HTA and a fork with the old offset are slacker than their 26er brethren. Putting on a fork with the new offset would correct this.
Bikes with a 72 degree HTA are OK with the old offset. Putting on a fork with the new offset would make them too steep.
The wheelbase doesn’t change. The fork crown comes forward but the wheel stays in the same place. In other words, the angle of the fork legs gets steeper.
The new Minute 29 will be available in both the old and new offsets. “First wave”
29ers will be able to buy a new fork without screwing up the handling and people with slow turning 29ers will be able to fix that.

]]> By: rockhound http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14413 rockhound Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:58:41 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14413 So even a 29er with a 71deg headtube has a "slack" headtube because of the offset, right? An offset fork makes the bike feel "snappier", but doesn't the longer wheelbase take some of that away as well? What will our options be for rigid offset forks? So even a 29er with a 71deg headtube has a “slack” headtube because of the offset, right?

An offset fork makes the bike feel “snappier”, but doesn’t the longer wheelbase take some of that away as well?

What will our options be for rigid offset forks?

]]> By: Cloxxki http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14402 Cloxxki Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:09:17 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14402 You already have a "slack" HTA, you could use the longer offset to spice up your bike's handling, if you're into that. If you want things to remain the same (hey, you're the one with a custom fitted titanium frame), increasing travel along with offset makes sense as well. Reba's are at 39mm. You already have a “slack” HTA, you could use the longer offset to spice up your bike’s handling, if you’re into that. If you want things to remain the same (hey, you’re the one with a custom fitted titanium frame), increasing travel along with offset makes sense as well.
Reba’s are at 39mm.

]]> By: gravelrider http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14397 gravelrider Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:37:28 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14397 So if I put one the new forks ( say the Manitou 47 offset) on my 71 degree HT Seven, will I have to increase travel to 100 mm, per Cloxxi recomendation. What would the ride be like if I don't increase travel and stick with the 80mm travel. Also, what is the Reba offset currently? SH So if I put one the new forks ( say the Manitou 47 offset) on my 71 degree HT Seven, will I have to increase travel to 100 mm, per Cloxxi recomendation.
What would the ride be like if I don’t increase travel and stick with the 80mm travel.

Also, what is the Reba offset currently?

SH

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14376 Guitar Ted Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:14:01 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14376 matty: I appreciate your sentiments. It is all about the ride. But if I can't keep my bike on line, I can't enjoy the girl in hot pants in front of me, or whatever. Ya know? So, I investigated why that was, and found out that front end geometry has a lot to do with letting me forget about the "geek" stuff and just ride. If the numbers aren't right, the ride sucks, and that harshes my shred, ya know? So, in order to enjoy ultimate sweetness, and avoid OTB in the butt rough, I have found that a little "geeking out" goes a long ways towards maximum shred. Ride on! matty: I appreciate your sentiments. It is all about the ride. But if I can’t keep my bike on line, I can’t enjoy the girl in hot pants in front of me, or whatever. Ya know? So, I investigated why that was, and found out that front end geometry has a lot to do with letting me forget about the “geek” stuff and just ride. If the numbers aren’t right, the ride sucks, and that harshes my shred, ya know?

So, in order to enjoy ultimate sweetness, and avoid OTB in the butt rough, I have found that a little “geeking out” goes a long ways towards maximum shred. Ride on!

]]> By: rockhound http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14355 rockhound Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:56:29 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14355 Thanks Guitar Ted, I got it. I kept thinking of it like grabbing the wheel, pulling it forward, while the fork is "bent forward" at the crown. Thanks Guitar Ted, I got it. I kept thinking of it like grabbing the wheel, pulling it forward, while the fork is “bent forward” at the crown.

]]> By: matty http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14313 matty Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:56:39 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14313 just so you guys know, you guys are a bunch of techno weiner geeks. not to sound like a dirty hippie or a left sided radical but when i riding my bike i tend not to think about the the head angles or fork lengths of my trusty ride. i try to think about the trail and not hit trees, and that super hot girl in bike shorts in front of me. Pretty much everything that has to do with riding but the angles of my bike. So I implore the world of weiner riders, put down the calculators, step away, and go ride your bike. just so you guys know, you guys are a bunch of techno weiner geeks. not to sound like a dirty hippie or a left sided radical but when i riding my bike i tend not to think about the the head angles or fork lengths of my trusty ride. i try to think about the trail and not hit trees, and that super hot girl in bike shorts in front of me. Pretty much everything that has to do with riding but the angles of my bike. So I implore the world of weiner riders, put down the calculators, step away, and go ride your bike.

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14309 Guitar Ted Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:29:32 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2007/04/19/fork-confusion/#comment-14309 rockhound: Offset will not affect head angle if changed, neither will it affect axle to crown length. It does affect wheelbase. Think of it as stretching your fork crown forwards, the wheel moves horizontally, with everything else remaining the same. See what I mean? :) rockhound: Offset will not affect head angle if changed, neither will it affect axle to crown length. It does affect wheelbase. Think of it as stretching your fork crown forwards, the wheel moves horizontally, with everything else remaining the same. See what I mean? :)

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