Comments on: Taipei Bike Show : TWO fat 29″ tires! http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/ 29er Bike Reviews, Rumors and News Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:15:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Cloxxki http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-360 Cloxxki Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:12:49 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-360 First I heard (or misunderstood) on this, was that the 2.35 they made, mysteriously wasn't up Kenda's sizing requirements for a 2.35", so they decided to market it as a 2.2" after all. If this were true, explain to me why my 2.2" Karma measures 49mm across on a wide rim. Normally even 2.0 Kenda's manage that, right? Man would some of us have been rich now if we could "just" throw a couple bucks on a pile to fund a tire that manufacturers just WON'T make. The more you plead, the more they'll say "no demand", "risky investment", "niche market". Now who has pics or anything on the new Panaracer Rampage tread? First I heard (or misunderstood) on this, was that the 2.35 they made, mysteriously wasn’t up Kenda’s sizing requirements for a 2.35″, so they decided to market it as a 2.2″ after all. If this were true, explain to me why my 2.2″ Karma measures 49mm across on a wide rim. Normally even 2.0 Kenda’s manage that, right?

Man would some of us have been rich now if we could “just” throw a couple bucks on a pile to fund a tire that manufacturers just WON’T make.
The more you plead, the more they’ll say “no demand”, “risky investment”, “niche market”.

Now who has pics or anything on the new Panaracer Rampage tread?

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-358 Guitar Ted Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:25:03 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-358 It would seem rather odd if Kenda had promised this Nevegal 2.3 so convincingly that QBP put it in their '06 catalog, only to have it become vaporware. That's not going to play well with the masses. Anyway, all this tire talk is absolutely trash until an actual "for sale" tire shows up on the shelves of LBS' all around the world. I've seen way too many disappointments along the way. I'd rather that we just discovered a new tire on a shelf for sale somewhere than to hear all of these unsubstantiated rumors and unfulfilled promises. I agree with you, Cloxxki, these companies must be afraid of making money! It just doesn't make any sense. Well, I'll be off now to buy some 29"er tires that are actually available. To manufacturers: It could have been your tire! Too bad! It would seem rather odd if Kenda had promised this Nevegal 2.3 so convincingly that QBP put it in their ‘06 catalog, only to have it become vaporware. That’s not going to play well with the masses.

Anyway, all this tire talk is absolutely trash until an actual “for sale” tire shows up on the shelves of LBS’ all around the world. I’ve seen way too many disappointments along the way. I’d rather that we just discovered a new tire on a shelf for sale somewhere than to hear all of these unsubstantiated rumors and unfulfilled promises.

I agree with you, Cloxxki, these companies must be afraid of making money! It just doesn’t make any sense. Well, I’ll be off now to buy some 29″er tires that are actually available. To manufacturers: It could have been your tire! Too bad!

]]> By: Cloxxki http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-357 Cloxxki Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:35:28 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-357 That's the meanest and stupidest tease I've seen. Most wanted tire in the MTBR poll, and they SHOW it, and then downsize it to maybe take a couple percent marketshare in the knobby XC chaos. Next up : a Motoraptor vs Nevagal comparison test, hurray! Why BOTHER make a show tire??? How does that work anyway, no mold? That’s the meanest and stupidest tease I’ve seen. Most wanted tire in the MTBR poll, and they SHOW it, and then downsize it to maybe take a couple percent marketshare in the knobby XC chaos. Next up : a Motoraptor vs Nevagal comparison test, hurray!
Why BOTHER make a show tire??? How does that work anyway, no mold?

]]> By: brant http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-356 brant Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:12:10 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-356 Kenda are not producing the 2.3(5)in model. It will be a 2.2in when it reaches production. The show model was just that - a show model. Kenda are not producing the 2.3(5)in model. It will be a 2.2in when it reaches production. The show model was just that - a show model.

]]> By: JMKM http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-338 JMKM Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:01:13 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-338 This is BS! to set the record straight and give the facts, not rumors, Kenda did show a Nev 2.3 it was big and Panaracer will have a 2.3 at IB. I spoke with Panaracer personally about this tire, they did not have any samples. Tooling will be opened soon and samples will be floating around in the summer sometime. Now you know, Also, Maxxis will have two new tires, one larger, one the same size as the Ignitor. Same timeline as Panaracer. This is BS! to set the record straight and give the facts, not rumors, Kenda did show a Nev 2.3 it was big and Panaracer will have a 2.3 at IB. I spoke with Panaracer personally about this tire, they did not have any samples. Tooling will be opened soon and samples will be floating around in the summer sometime. Now you know,

Also, Maxxis will have two new tires, one larger, one the same size as the Ignitor. Same timeline as Panaracer.

]]> By: Alex http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-331 Alex Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:48:23 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-331 James Yeh is the chairman of Alita (who own Reece Cycles in the UK, my daytime employer) He is really fired up about pushing into the high end (say 300GBP - 5000GBP!) market so a nice range of 29ers and singlspeeds / fixies would fit right in :) Alex James Yeh is the chairman of Alita (who own Reece Cycles in the UK, my daytime employer) He is really fired up about pushing into the high end (say 300GBP - 5000GBP!) market so a nice range of 29ers and singlspeeds / fixies would fit right in :)

Alex

]]> By: ekoostick http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-330 ekoostick Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:41:28 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-330 Alex, very cool for sharing the pictures and info! Who is James Y? -Keith Alex, very cool for sharing the pictures and info! Who is James Y?

-Keith

]]> By: Alex http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-329 Alex Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:02:45 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-329 I saw and photographed the Kenda 2.3 but I was sure that I had read about it on MTBR.com a while ago...I was getting kind of bike-blind by day 3 of the show :) I will post a pic of the tyre on my blog later (solitudecycles.blogspot.com) and while I didn't have any calipers with me I would say its a "real" 2.3" tyre :) There was a 29er EBB Ti bike from "Top Image" that looked pretty nice, as well as the WTB stuff (with a prmise of more tyres and rime later in the year!) Another good thing for 29ers is that James Y has told me he wants me to take over the high-end bike brand he owns and be responsible for the design / speccing of the range...29ers will be among them! I am awaiting confirmation and an internal re-shuffle first. Alex I saw and photographed the Kenda 2.3 but I was sure that I had read about it on MTBR.com a while ago…I was getting kind of bike-blind by day 3 of the show :)

I will post a pic of the tyre on my blog later (solitudecycles.blogspot.com) and while I didn’t have any calipers with me I would say its a “real” 2.3″ tyre :)

There was a 29er EBB Ti bike from “Top Image” that looked pretty nice, as well as the WTB stuff (with a prmise of more tyres and rime later in the year!)

Another good thing for 29ers is that James Y has told me he wants me to take over the high-end bike brand he owns and be responsible for the design / speccing of the range…29ers will be among them! I am awaiting confirmation and an internal re-shuffle first.

Alex

]]> By: brant http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-326 brant Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:39:31 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-326 >This just in from China : Taipei is in Taiwan, which sort of is in China, but sort of isnt'. >This just in from China :

Taipei is in Taiwan, which sort of is in China, but sort of isnt’.

]]> By: ekoostick http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-325 ekoostick Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:05:41 +0000 http://twentynineinches.com/2006/03/11/taipei-bike-show-two-fat-29-tires/#comment-325 You don't think it will be an Fire XC Pro or Cinder? My money would be on that but something totally new might be cool too. I have always had bad luck with Panaracer so I have my hopes up for Kenda. You don’t think it will be an Fire XC Pro or Cinder? My money would be on that but something totally new might be cool too. I have always had bad luck with Panaracer so I have my hopes up for Kenda.

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